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the plaintiff thought the Masters almost

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surely have a plan

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this clearly made me something there

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beyond the realm of man

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I already tested every last coaster you

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less you will be do that's true dr.

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folks we know the world is a mysterious

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place with the past full of amazing

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things despite the shadowy elites best

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attempts to destroy and censor as much

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of it as they can from early explorers

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reports that indicate the possibility of

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a Hollow Earth and ancient maps that

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show this and other anomalies such as

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phantom islands too out of place

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artifacts in ancient America that turned

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the official history on its head there's

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no shortage of provocative clues for

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anyone who takes the time to look below

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the whitewashed surface and today's

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guest rebel scholar Harry Hubbard has

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been swimming in the wake of these

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mysteries most of his life and being a

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longtime collector of old books coins

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maps and artifacts has put him

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face-to-face with some of the best

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evidence for a past that looks much

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different from the one were given people

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who know Harry Hubbard are probably

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familiar with them due to his

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involvement in the Illinois cave saga

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where a huge trove of ancient artifacts

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were found inside a cave in Marion

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County Illinois that Harry has spent

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years studying and he attributes the

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fine to being the lost tomb of Alexander

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he's got no shortage of alternative

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anecdotes and strange sagas to talk

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about and you can watch Harry walk you

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through most of his collections and

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ideas on his youtube channel it's a real

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pleasure to have him here Harry my man

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welcome to the higher side hey I had to

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be here Greg first sure man this is a

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real treat I've had a blast watching

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your videos and seen a lot of strange

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and rare relics up close and personal

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some of these videos you've made of

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course are over 20 years old at this

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point but they're still pretty unique

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and it's great that you're getting them

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online now for those listening that are

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unfamiliar with you and your work tell

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us a little bit more about how you got

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interested and this kind of stuff and

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amassed such a huge collection well I

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guess we can start out I my mother

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encouraged me to read and she said I'll

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buy you books and you read them and so

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she bought books and I read them and I

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couldn't plug in E because she would ask

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me well what was what was the third

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chapter about and I'm like well I don't

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know what you go read the third chapter

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and you come back and tell me what it is

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started having to remember it was in

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these books and also with Bible verses

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Testament you know before I was like 14

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developing a love for reading at an

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early age and I developed the ability to

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school a few years after I got out of

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high school well I really learned pick

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up my reading speed right on yeah I mean

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the collection you have of all kinds of

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things is just so impressive and I've

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always been interested in anything

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related to the Hollow Earth and you

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detail some old maps in your video the

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lies area map collection yeah that was

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my old map collection yep yeah you

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mentioned to me that your father was

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actually listening live when Admiral

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Byrd was on the radio and they cut him

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off when it started to get weird so this

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Hollow Earth idea has been with you from

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an early age it seems hasn't it yes my

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father grew up out west he had collected

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UFO flying saucer books and if there was

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saucers that was what was on the TV that

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night it wasn't you don't touch nothing

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nobody watches that he wanted to watch

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his shows and naturally I would watch

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them with him and and we all would there

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was nothing we could say about it he was

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the boss and and so he was always in so

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these books will and real as a matter of

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fact I still have today several probably

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fifteen of his books UFO book so

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familiar with the Admiral Byrd story I

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think most of us have as part of the

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Hollow Earth 101 but there are plenty of

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earlier explorers who sailed around the

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northern polar region and southern who

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have reported unexpected things can you

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tell us about any of them that are

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lesser-known that you find compelling

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just about every one of them we

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the stories that the guys had seen and

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you know just stories of the Explorers

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in the North Pole region that had found

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the Bears always moving north or the

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birds always flying north and there was

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beginning of the 20th century and people

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got lost people froze the Long's crew

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was it was it was treacherous it will

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man had to advance to a certain point to

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be able to conquer those elements and as

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I understand it I don't know

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on it but anyone in your audience could

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but Admiral Byrd was giving like

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day-to-day updates or hourly updates or

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something like that

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radio he was giving the update and he

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what they were doing and he would talk

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about where they were at and in

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different segments and it was in the one

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segment that my dad had told me that

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sound like it was static and they just

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turned it out hmm and he had those

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planes out it was really interesting the

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way he Admiral Byrd had those planes

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outfitted for the super cold

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temperatures quite remarkable he was a

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brilliant man when it came to fighting

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those cold elements oh yeah I think that

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is really interesting I've heard other

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people talk about hearing him live on

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the radio and that would be pretty

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amazing but is that normal to broadcast

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broadcast updates over mainstream radio

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that today I don't think I don't know

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that it was such a military operation it

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was probably a publicity stunt from one

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of the television one of the radio

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company I don't know who funded his

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research but I would think that the

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military probably wouldn't want to have

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their name attached to it but now we're

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Smithsonian Institute and as I

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understand it the Smithsonian Institute

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it was actually created to study the

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possibility that the earth was Hollow

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the middle 1800s so so and then you know

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yeah they won't let you up in that area

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now and pilots can't fly commercially

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over it because if by chance some plane

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or jet did go down use the heart and if

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their bacon went out or whatever they

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could not be visually seen there'd be no

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way to find them because compasses don't

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work it's like when Admiral Byrd

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explains his compass the compass goes up

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Paul they were suspended in a big ball

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and liquid that wouldn't freeze and then

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the the the North it actually starts to

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point up and when it gets just passed

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straight up it flips around and turns

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backwards and that's why on these old

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maps from what I find it's old Mint from

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the 1600s is they got the you know the

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little the little legend out of the side

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yeah you don't don't use your compass

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when you get up into the higher

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latitudes your compass is worthless yeah

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man it seems as dangerous as it is

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mysterious of course those early

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explorers reported all sorts of things

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we wouldn't expect today open polar seas

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greenery warmth coming from the north

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and these might be some of the things

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you'd experience before getting to the

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hole supposedly if there is indeed some

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heat source at the top or the bottom

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coming from an open cavity but these

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things weren't uncommon to report during

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that little sliver of time we call the

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age of exploration and these voyages to

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find a Northwest Passage and all that

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stuff but there's also fraud in this

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area potentially and two of the big

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explorers who don't talk about these

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things that were told discovered the

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North Pole in the mainstream are Nansen

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and Cooke and it seems like there are

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reasons why you doubt these people

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which would help to leave open the

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Hollow Earth possibility when I went

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congressional records that I had a way

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in the dawning stages of the internet

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and cook it is obvious that neither one

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of them got to that they proved each

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other wrong I thought very very well

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that neither one up had made it to the

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North Pole and and then when you see

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that the trail of their journey just

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went straight there one way and then

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came straight back well that doesn't

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seem possible because the ice is quite

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jagged it's it's razor-sharp you can't

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pull a sled or dogs it's not like smooth

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river ice it's not like that at all it's

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like bunched up icebergs and mountains

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of ice and crushed in and this and that

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so I don't put a lot of credit into

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those if it's printed after World War

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two I would

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find it questionable fair fair but yeah

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I guess at that time it seems like a big

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fight for ego and publicity of who can

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say they did it first but are there any

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claims about the about actually going

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inside the earth or getting near the

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hole that you do find credible oh yeah

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Admiral Byrd for sure yeah

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would he be the only one I'm sure there

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are other credible sources but I have

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not seen them there were supposedly some

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to a Norwegian man and his son that sat

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out fishing one one afternoon or one

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morning and ended up going into the

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North Pole and coming out the South Pole

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what was it called the Smokey God or

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something like that

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Olaf Jensen yeah I can't put nonfiction

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on it I just can't I'd have to see more

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than you know just the tale mm-hmm I

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would bring something a great the size

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of a softball or a grape feed the size

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of a pecan you know something to prove

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that they were there that what they said

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was true right it's the kind of thing I

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really want to believe but there's not a

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whole lot of evidence to go on

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unfortunately which makes it tough

278
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correct and you've got this one guy

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Agnew and something about Agnew and he's

280
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wanting to mount a an expedition to the

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North Pole Oh Brooks Agnew

282
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yeah we've interviewed him before Brooks

283
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Agnew that's in that field and but they

284
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won't let you up there the United States

285
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military Canadian military Norwegian and

286
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Russian military will not will not allow

287
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it

288
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mm-hmm yeah and there's got to be a

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reason for that yes yes yeah I'm sure

290
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that's a depression so to talk about the

291
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maps a bit the one that I recognized as

292
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the most well circulated Hollow Earth

293
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map that you have in that one

294
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presentation it's got the water flowing

295
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out of four main channels around four

296
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big land masses suspected to be I guess

297
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under ice now but you detail in that

298
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video you mentioned it was made by a guy

299
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named Matias Becky Atwater

300
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Matias Cuates in the 1600s what can you

301
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tell us about his credibility as a map

302
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maker well the Catholic Church station

303
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so that's one good bite to have in his

304
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corner but he was he was actually making

305
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more renditions and a different script

306
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slightly different script to a map

307
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previous to that vibe murder hardest

308
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Mercator and there was a abraham

309
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ortelius in that same time frame and

310
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also remote Mercator who was I believe

311
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your hardest Mercator zan nephew is

312
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either his nephew or Angela and one of

313
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the other I never knew so that same

314
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legend with some extra is on the

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Matthias Cuates math but he was not the

316
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originator of that actual circular

317
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pattern that you see there that as far

318
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as I know well you can go even back to

319
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1507 the map that Christopher Columbus

320
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had had those four islands on it the

321
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Johannes ruch map Christopher Columbus

322
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had a Johannes ruch map and those four

323
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islands were at the top of it Wow so

324
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it's basically a Hollow Earth map well

325
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not so much but just a world map that

326
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didn't have North America on it but it

327
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had Cape Cod on it you know the

328
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Massachusetts Cape Cod but it was

329
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attached to China and you had Cuba leis

330
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labeled as Japan go with a different

331
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shape on it so so there were I believe

332
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that Christopher Columbus was just

333
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looking for the missing eight hours on

334
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the map and and and I can't find that

335
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anybody in Christopher Columbus's day

336
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thought that the earth was that the

337
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earth was flat that all comes from the

338
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1800s I can't find in any ancient

339
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language ancient literature classical

340
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literature all of the classical writers

341
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talked about the earth as being a sphere

342
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they spoke of the heavens as being a

343
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sphere and I you know always so dumb to

344
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think that ancient man couldn't look up

345
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at the moon at night oh wow that's a

346
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ball it has dimension to it oh look at

347
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the Sun and the Sun rising in the sunset

348
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oh that is a circular ball no hey

349
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chances are this planet here's what ball

350
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to so I don't think that anybody ever

351
00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:54,579
thought that the earth was flat except

352
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except in today's time since the what

353
00:14:03,689 --> 00:14:00,040
the the 1970s or 1960s there's been a

354
00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:03,699
real good push for the Flat Earth theory

355
00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:05,889
I know it man but when we're looking at

356
00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:08,230
maps as possible evidence for a Hollow

357
00:14:13,439 --> 00:14:10,809
Earth or missing land masses and they

358
00:14:15,809 --> 00:14:13,449
have such glaring flaws as missing North

359
00:14:17,789 --> 00:14:15,819
America obviously I still find them

360
00:14:20,340 --> 00:14:17,799
interesting but to be fair it makes it a

361
00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:20,350
bit hard to use them for validation

362
00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:22,569
because they are so clearly inaccurate

363
00:14:27,150 --> 00:14:24,970
in other areas right perhaps the best

364
00:14:30,109 --> 00:14:27,160
rendition that I can recall I don't have

365
00:14:33,359 --> 00:14:30,119
mine anymore was the Dover publication

366
00:14:34,919 --> 00:14:33,369
what was it geology of the world or so

367
00:14:37,439 --> 00:14:34,929
it was Anna Tovar I mentioned it in the

368
00:14:39,419 --> 00:14:37,449
lays area map collection video the book

369
00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:39,429
by Dover publications it's got the

370
00:14:44,309 --> 00:14:41,230
johannes ruse map on it and it's good

371
00:14:47,249 --> 00:14:44,319
it's good it's good it shows those what

372
00:14:50,309 --> 00:14:47,259
they call the bar goes Island and I did

373
00:14:53,939 --> 00:14:50,319
a reprieve on the bar goes islands in a

374
00:14:56,939 --> 00:14:53,949
in the Denver lecture I showed where the

375
00:14:58,729 --> 00:14:56,949
classical author Pliny or some people

376
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call him plainy i don't care' plenteous

377
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he was writing in what 70 AD or so and

378
00:15:09,179 --> 00:15:06,999
he writes about the Burgos Islands

379
00:15:11,729 --> 00:15:09,189
before Burgos Islands away at the North

380
00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:11,739
Pole mm-hmm so evidently somebody been

381
00:15:15,090 --> 00:15:14,079
there over 2,000 years ago or close to

382
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it mm-hmm

383
00:15:19,079 --> 00:15:17,379
yeah so they are mentioned in classical

384
00:15:21,210 --> 00:15:19,089
history that makes it even more

385
00:15:24,539 --> 00:15:21,220
intriguing and there is a lot of script

386
00:15:27,210 --> 00:15:24,549
all around that that big Hollow Earth

387
00:15:30,090 --> 00:15:27,220
map that gives added context and details

388
00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:30,100
about the geography and the climate do

389
00:15:34,259 --> 00:15:31,569
you remember any of those out of details

390
00:15:36,059 --> 00:15:34,269
that are on there yeah I like the one

391
00:15:39,210 --> 00:15:36,069
that the fishing of sturgeon is good in

392
00:15:41,189 --> 00:15:39,220
these waters right well in the world

393
00:15:43,769 --> 00:15:41,199
what they don't happen to me let's go

394
00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:43,779
back to George Souter he was a German

395
00:15:48,419 --> 00:15:46,480
map maker his maps were in German old

396
00:15:51,929 --> 00:15:48,429
German so what does this tell you it

397
00:15:54,329 --> 00:15:51,939
tells you that he was a lutheran in 1736

398
00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:54,339
he was a lutheran in 1700 that's when

399
00:15:58,619 --> 00:15:55,600
the Lutheran Church Martin Luther and

400
00:16:01,289 --> 00:15:58,629
his Reformation and and Protestant okay

401
00:16:03,329 --> 00:16:01,299
so at that time there were no Lutheran's

402
00:16:05,669 --> 00:16:03,339
just making stuff up they weren't just

403
00:16:07,470 --> 00:16:05,679
making things up I mean you know he had

404
00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:07,480
to have had he had to be convinced

405
00:16:13,169 --> 00:16:10,569
because he was a good map maker it had

406
00:16:15,630 --> 00:16:13,179
one map that they say was a fantasy map

407
00:16:17,550 --> 00:16:15,640
okay but he never put he never put

408
00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:17,560
out as a real map this map here the

409
00:16:22,860 --> 00:16:20,230
schlafen land map he never said that it

410
00:16:25,290 --> 00:16:22,870
was bogus at all and he'd like to say it

411
00:16:28,140 --> 00:16:25,300
was it was found at his door stood the

412
00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:28,150
doorstep of his mapmaking shop he didn't

413
00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:29,890
know it just came - no he left one night

414
00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:31,330
came back the next morning and it was

415
00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:33,970
there so he printed it but there's also

416
00:16:38,670 --> 00:16:36,610
other things too here on this island

417
00:16:40,980 --> 00:16:38,680
is where the machine that controls the

418
00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:40,990
weather is located and it talks about we

419
00:16:45,180 --> 00:16:43,090
have sunlight daylight and and but it's

420
00:16:48,150 --> 00:16:45,190
not as bright as the Sun but it's

421
00:16:51,300 --> 00:16:48,160
daylight inside you know 24 hours a day

422
00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:51,310
or however what their day was if it was

423
00:16:55,530 --> 00:16:52,990
sunny all the time we would just have to

424
00:16:57,750 --> 00:16:55,540
go by our clocks to determine what you

425
00:16:59,310 --> 00:16:57,760
know what day it was or anything mm-hmm

426
00:17:01,920 --> 00:16:59,320
yeah I thought that was fascinating

427
00:17:05,430 --> 00:17:01,930
because you have this map by a prominent

428
00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:05,440
map maker of a continent or series of

429
00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:07,870
land masses that is completely foreign

430
00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:10,720
the Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic

431
00:17:15,030 --> 00:17:12,610
of Cancer are both on the map but

432
00:17:16,740 --> 00:17:15,040
they're angled in a way that you could

433
00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:16,750
say this would be a map from the

434
00:17:21,870 --> 00:17:19,449
interior of the earth land masses on the

435
00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:21,880
inside and yes you mentioned they say

436
00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:24,400
that it's light here in both day and

437
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:24,790
night

438
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:27,520
and the most provocative thing is on one

439
00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:29,170
Island it says the machine that controls

440
00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:33,370
the weather is kept here and yeah I mean

441
00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:37,210
my jaw at the floor on that one in 1736

442
00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:39,370
they didn't have any science fiction

443
00:17:46,050 --> 00:17:42,880
yeah definitely fascinating is there

444
00:17:47,940 --> 00:17:46,060
anything else about the Bargo Islands

445
00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:47,950
I know it's scarce but is there anything

446
00:17:51,690 --> 00:17:49,840
else any kind of details about anyone

447
00:17:54,030 --> 00:17:51,700
who's ever landed on these islands or

448
00:17:56,340 --> 00:17:54,040
anything not in modern history no not in

449
00:17:59,010 --> 00:17:56,350
modern history and all the detail though

450
00:18:00,570 --> 00:17:59,020
that your hardest Mercator that he put

451
00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:00,580
on there and then all the added

452
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:03,790
materials that matthias Cuates put into

453
00:18:07,470 --> 00:18:06,970
his maps there evidently they had been

454
00:18:09,450 --> 00:18:07,480
there okay

455
00:18:11,790 --> 00:18:09,460
like for instance when they're talking

456
00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:11,800
about the hours of Sun in the summer

457
00:18:15,870 --> 00:18:13,840
months and the hours of Sun and the

458
00:18:16,860 --> 00:18:15,880
winter months you're not going to know

459
00:18:19,740 --> 00:18:16,870
that unless you've been there for a

460
00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:19,750
while yeah so they went up there they

461
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:21,910
did camp they did spend time there if

462
00:18:27,090 --> 00:18:24,850
you've got it printed in 16 and in the

463
00:18:29,260 --> 00:18:27,100
early 1616 oh five sixteen oh seven

464
00:18:31,810 --> 00:18:29,270
eight etc or

465
00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:31,820
before then in the late 1500s where

466
00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:33,530
people did go there you're not going to

467
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:35,750
know that living on the equator or

468
00:18:39,940 --> 00:18:37,610
living in the lower ladder the lower

469
00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:39,950
latitudes you're not going to know that

470
00:18:44,050 --> 00:18:41,960
it's pitch-black dark throughout the

471
00:18:46,030 --> 00:18:44,060
winter or in you know around the

472
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:46,040
solstice times you're not going to know

473
00:18:51,570 --> 00:18:48,650
that that's good evidence yeah you're

474
00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:51,580
just and and also on the Cuates maps

475
00:18:57,460 --> 00:18:53,990
where they're talking about you can go

476
00:18:59,050 --> 00:18:57,470
into this lake here is unexplored but

477
00:19:01,810 --> 00:18:59,060
it's on the map and it's on the maps of

478
00:19:03,340 --> 00:19:01,820
today where everything like somebody was

479
00:19:04,540 --> 00:19:03,350
there just stand there and say you know

480
00:19:06,490 --> 00:19:04,550
what if somebody needs to come and look

481
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:06,500
at that somebody needs to follow that

482
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:08,930
back and and if you look at on the map

483
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:11,840
at the south end of Hudson Bay well

484
00:19:14,830 --> 00:19:13,610
there's two rivers there well how in the

485
00:19:16,690 --> 00:19:14,840
world would they know those rivers were

486
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:16,700
there if they had to bend there at the

487
00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:20,450
south end of Hudson Bay in early 1600s

488
00:19:25,390 --> 00:19:23,510
that's true that's true and again all

489
00:19:27,970 --> 00:19:25,400
this stuff seems to be so old have you

490
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:27,980
seen any evidence or indication at all

491
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:29,810
that these islands are there or that the

492
00:19:35,140 --> 00:19:31,850
the whole is there in modern times or

493
00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:35,150
have the yeah oh yeah really oh yeah if

494
00:19:39,580 --> 00:19:37,310
you just google the maps of the North

495
00:19:41,830 --> 00:19:39,590
Pole well I show one at the end of that

496
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:41,840
video I show one at the very end the

497
00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:44,690
satellite composite yes but and that was

498
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:47,360
in what 67 there are also some from 64

499
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:51,290
or 65 and even more modern today they

500
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:54,290
show you satellite pictures that will

501
00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:57,200
show it and I mean just NASA website

502
00:20:01,300 --> 00:19:58,850
whatever you can see the outline of

503
00:20:05,050 --> 00:20:01,310
those four islands just as plain as day

504
00:20:06,670 --> 00:20:05,060
just as plain as day yeah you can at

505
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:06,680
least see on some of them that there's

506
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:09,170
been some manipulation or editing done

507
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:11,930
yes on some of the other big grand to

508
00:20:16,450 --> 00:20:13,850
your maps of the world without it

509
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:16,460
without it's cloud cover some of those

510
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:18,650
map they they kind of mask over it you

511
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:20,960
know with the ice and they give a lot of

512
00:20:25,390 --> 00:20:23,450
fiction stuff on it which is typical

513
00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:25,400
that's just either anything that goes

514
00:20:29,290 --> 00:20:25,760
away

515
00:20:30,790 --> 00:20:29,300
goes astray from their theory and what

516
00:20:32,110 --> 00:20:30,800
they want you to know there they don't

517
00:20:33,730 --> 00:20:32,120
how to block it out they know what

518
00:20:35,530 --> 00:20:33,740
they're doing mm-hmm it's also

519
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:35,540
interesting that we have these legends

520
00:20:39,940 --> 00:20:37,610
of Hyperborea which is thought to be a

521
00:20:41,970 --> 00:20:39,950
landmass to the north and then you have

522
00:20:44,190 --> 00:20:41,980
the entrance or the Bargo die

523
00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:44,200
so definitely could be something there

524
00:20:50,759 --> 00:20:47,200
some people had thought that hyperborea

525
00:20:54,210 --> 00:20:50,769
was Vincent Bergen or Nova Sandler and

526
00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:54,220
or or even the Margo's Islands it could

527
00:21:00,629 --> 00:20:55,870
be the one it was it was a somewhat

528
00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:00,639
ambiguous but they did write about it in

529
00:21:05,879 --> 00:21:02,710
they even had legends I believe it was

530
00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:05,889
in Ireland about coming down from the

531
00:21:10,350 --> 00:21:06,809
north

532
00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:10,360
Wow and are there other entrances talked

533
00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:12,159
about besides the polar regions that

534
00:21:16,620 --> 00:21:14,500
have interested you not that I can

535
00:21:19,379 --> 00:21:16,630
recall you there there are some pretty

536
00:21:24,419 --> 00:21:19,389
deep caves but but there is some kind of

537
00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:24,429
a heated mantle or molten rock layers in

538
00:21:28,919 --> 00:21:26,350
there because the farther down you go

539
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:28,929
the hotter it gets they when I was

540
00:21:33,570 --> 00:21:30,730
growing up they always said that the

541
00:21:36,090 --> 00:21:33,580
inner core of the earth was a real heavy

542
00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:36,100
condensed packed iron just this this

543
00:21:41,549 --> 00:21:38,740
metallic material was made up of iron

544
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:41,559
and magnesium and manganese and and all

545
00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:43,570
of these metals this just packed up and

546
00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:45,190
they were told me like that one

547
00:21:50,129 --> 00:21:48,100
tablespoon of it will weigh a ton it's

548
00:21:51,930 --> 00:21:50,139
so packed it's so compact I said well

549
00:21:53,399 --> 00:21:51,940
okay now I got a little older I'm like

550
00:21:55,950 --> 00:21:53,409
well isn't that throwing all the

551
00:21:56,639 --> 00:21:55,960
properties of physics just right out the

552
00:21:58,529 --> 00:21:56,649
window

553
00:22:00,060 --> 00:21:58,539
aren't we just taking physics and

554
00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:00,070
throwing them you know widen it up in a

555
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:02,679
snowball and throwing it it doesn't make

556
00:22:06,930 --> 00:22:04,570
any sense at all yeah

557
00:22:09,090 --> 00:22:06,940
you can't compress iron you know you're

558
00:22:11,310 --> 00:22:09,100
not gonna it's just so much you can do

559
00:22:13,169 --> 00:22:11,320
and then we have you know other metals

560
00:22:15,419 --> 00:22:13,179
that are much heavier like uranium

561
00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:15,429
plutonium then a very very heavy but you

562
00:22:19,529 --> 00:22:17,980
don't have metal and if the earth was

563
00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:19,539
spinning at a thousand miles an hour

564
00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:23,049
around and you had this heavy iron core

565
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:25,870
and it's surrounded by molten rock well

566
00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:27,760
brother I'm telling you man how can

567
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:30,370
anything survive being surrounded by

568
00:22:35,639 --> 00:22:33,250
molten rock how could it have you know

569
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:35,649
we would it makes no sense to have a

570
00:22:39,210 --> 00:22:37,840
solid core of the earth if their

571
00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:39,220
theories are correct and it would be a

572
00:22:44,940 --> 00:22:42,100
hot liquid there's no you can take any

573
00:22:47,399 --> 00:22:44,950
metal in the world and put it into

574
00:22:48,899 --> 00:22:47,409
molten lava and in this corner it's

575
00:22:51,180 --> 00:22:48,909
going to change its going to change back

576
00:22:53,820 --> 00:22:51,190
to the liquid I mean my gosh what is

577
00:22:56,150 --> 00:22:53,830
what is lava and molten rock that's the

578
00:23:00,090 --> 00:22:56,160
elements melted down and they

579
00:23:01,890 --> 00:23:00,100
extremely hot right that's the iron core

580
00:23:03,660 --> 00:23:01,900
is the official story I heard as well I

581
00:23:06,990 --> 00:23:03,670
mean do you think that there's any

582
00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:07,000
justification for an open cavity inside

583
00:23:10,050 --> 00:23:08,590
that jives with our scientific

584
00:23:13,170 --> 00:23:10,060
understanding are you think it's a

585
00:23:15,150 --> 00:23:13,180
liquid core oh I would have I just know

586
00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:15,160
what I read and I'm and I'm just able to

587
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:17,350
present facts I really don't have an

588
00:23:20,490 --> 00:23:19,210
opinion I result share speculation

589
00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:20,500
concerning and I'm just saying that

590
00:23:25,530 --> 00:23:23,200
whatever they're saying is really hard

591
00:23:29,940 --> 00:23:25,540
to believe really hard to believe and

592
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:29,950
with all the the molten rock that's down

593
00:23:34,290 --> 00:23:32,050
there and all the elements and ores that

594
00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:34,300
are all churning and where does the

595
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:36,310
actual heat come from what is the

596
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:38,410
generation of that you it's the same

597
00:23:42,150 --> 00:23:40,240
thing as what they get from the from the

598
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:42,160
Sun oh well it's a nuclear reaction and

599
00:23:47,310 --> 00:23:45,010
it keeps going to started it how did it

600
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:47,320
oh it just happened to fall out of thin

601
00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:51,250
air you know yeah and then another thing

602
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:52,990
is I've worked with pumps and motors all

603
00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:55,120
my life and you've got these at the

604
00:23:59,700 --> 00:23:56,830
mountains out and out in the Rockies in

605
00:24:02,400 --> 00:23:59,710
the West where hot water I mean boiling

606
00:24:06,420 --> 00:24:02,410
water comes up out of the ground at like

607
00:24:08,910 --> 00:24:06,430
8,000 feet well where is the steam where

608
00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:08,920
is the steam deposit it has to be close

609
00:24:14,010 --> 00:24:11,560
to the surface it can't be several miles

610
00:24:18,330 --> 00:24:14,020
down into the the ground because the

611
00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:18,340
steam would eventually just turn turn to

612
00:24:22,020 --> 00:24:19,840
water and the water would cool off at

613
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:22,030
the time it traveled 8,000 feet above

614
00:24:26,490 --> 00:24:24,610
sea level hmm yeah and I know you've

615
00:24:27,870 --> 00:24:26,500
also in your pass worked with Tesla

616
00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:27,880
coils which is interesting because I

617
00:24:32,660 --> 00:24:29,590
think there's a real through line

618
00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:32,670
between rotation and anti-gravity

619
00:24:38,550 --> 00:24:36,190
electricity and gravity torsion fields

620
00:24:40,290 --> 00:24:38,560
and the possibility that the earth could

621
00:24:41,850 --> 00:24:40,300
be hollow though it would kind of look

622
00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:41,860
like a torsion field if there was

623
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:43,150
something to that but the spinning

624
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:45,370
around a central point I mean that's

625
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:46,720
what the earth apparently does and

626
00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:49,570
that's what UFOs do to fly that's how

627
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:51,430
flying saucers get off the ground so

628
00:24:57,390 --> 00:24:54,640
they say I believe Tesla had the answers

629
00:25:00,660 --> 00:24:57,400
to more of the Earth's mysteries than we

630
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:00,670
will ever know but I feel it probably we

631
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:03,690
we just the world wasn't ready for him

632
00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:07,330
wasn't ready for him and he left his

633
00:25:12,150 --> 00:25:09,670
thumbprint completely across the plane

634
00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:12,160
and this planet would not have been what

635
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:16,180
it is today without Tesla and I mean

636
00:25:20,460 --> 00:25:18,610
it's such a remarkable mind it's

637
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:20,470
unfortunately the lot that a lot of what

638
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:22,570
you read about him printed recently is

639
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:26,290
not true so taking it on the cup and

640
00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:28,450
just examining his experiments and his

641
00:25:34,980 --> 00:25:31,750
patents and such he had more as a

642
00:25:36,450 --> 00:25:34,990
foundation than we'll ever know and I

643
00:25:39,090 --> 00:25:36,460
believe he had more answers because

644
00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:39,100
things that he just figured out sure

645
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:40,660
what what are some of the things that

646
00:25:46,350 --> 00:25:43,840
you feel are being talked about with

647
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:46,360
Tesla that are inaccurate Oh certain

648
00:25:52,380 --> 00:25:48,310
things like it would hurt his ears to

649
00:25:55,230 --> 00:25:52,390
hear a thunderstorm 60 miles away just

650
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:55,240
things like that we're just fluffed up

651
00:25:59,220 --> 00:25:57,010
you know that all he would just grind

652
00:26:00,600 --> 00:25:59,230
his teeth when a when a thunderstorm was

653
00:26:02,850 --> 00:26:00,610
80-mile deer not going to hear a

654
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:02,860
thunderstorm 80 miles away yes hey Donna

655
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:05,650
happen okay it ain't gonna and it's not

656
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,710
gonna rock & roll your ears it's just

657
00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:10,720
not going to happen right so you know

658
00:26:14,460 --> 00:26:12,190
and it's just in some of the books that

659
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:14,470
I guess came out in the 80s you know

660
00:26:18,030 --> 00:26:15,970
just just trying to make a buck because

661
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:18,040
that's when the surge of Tesla had a

662
00:26:22,590 --> 00:26:20,110
reprieve was starting about the early

663
00:26:25,230 --> 00:26:22,600
80s that's when the technical Builders

664
00:26:27,410 --> 00:26:25,240
Association got its footing and people

665
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:27,420
really started getting to beginning to

666
00:26:33,420 --> 00:26:30,730
experiment more with Tesla coils and

667
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:33,430
building things in their shop and making

668
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:34,930
their own discoveries with super high

669
00:26:40,170 --> 00:26:37,210
voltage right it's a shame we haven't

670
00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:40,180
seen more widespread adoption in them in

671
00:26:44,790 --> 00:26:43,270
recent decades with that stuff well it

672
00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:44,800
wasn't going to make the commercial

673
00:26:49,050 --> 00:26:47,500
interests enough money right and it was

674
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:49,060
Edison that came up so hey if you don't

675
00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:51,370
put your transmission and power lines

676
00:26:54,570 --> 00:26:52,840
you're not going to make any money with

677
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:54,580
the maintenance that's how you charge

678
00:26:59,160 --> 00:26:56,080
people that's how you're going to make

679
00:27:02,160 --> 00:26:59,170
money who's with poles storms wires and

680
00:27:03,450 --> 00:27:02,170
consumption nope okay and he was right

681
00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:03,460
he was right that's not coming off the

682
00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:06,040
power companies are super wealthy and it

683
00:27:09,780 --> 00:27:07,390
never had to be that way from the first

684
00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:09,790
from the from the beginning right it's

685
00:27:14,250 --> 00:27:11,590
an unfortunate situation you also

686
00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:14,260
mention the Evonik manuscript in that

687
00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:16,030
video which has always been an

688
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:17,740
interesting mystery to me for those who

689
00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:19,210
are familiar it's a book dated back to

690
00:27:23,299 --> 00:27:21,550
the 1400s handwritten in an unknown

691
00:27:24,919 --> 00:27:23,309
language I know you've done a lot

692
00:27:26,509 --> 00:27:24,929
decipherment over the years do you have

693
00:27:29,869 --> 00:27:26,519
any thoughts on what might be behind

694
00:27:33,739 --> 00:27:29,879
that mystery I would think at this point

695
00:27:36,460 --> 00:27:33,749
that somebody needs to have the Voynich

696
00:27:38,989 --> 00:27:36,470
manuscript sent in to a forensic lab

697
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:38,999
that's all that's all I'm saying

698
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:41,370
it needs to be forensic ly tested and

699
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:43,769
that will tell oh that one's because

700
00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:45,090
that will give you everything that will

701
00:27:48,860 --> 00:27:47,309
give you every testing the inks testing

702
00:27:50,690 --> 00:27:48,870
the paper but it's never been tested

703
00:27:54,259 --> 00:27:50,700
they don't want it tested they love as

704
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:54,269
far as I'm concerned the story of its

705
00:27:59,239 --> 00:27:56,850
original passing from one to the next to

706
00:28:00,919 --> 00:27:59,249
the next and it just pops up you know

707
00:28:03,379 --> 00:28:00,929
again on the scene and what late

708
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,389
18-hundreds early 1900s or so when

709
00:28:07,549 --> 00:28:05,279
mortgage bought it you know what was

710
00:28:09,409 --> 00:28:07,559
what actually was the origin of it and

711
00:28:12,379 --> 00:28:09,419
you know didn't I said well it came from

712
00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:12,389
this guy came from this guy come on

713
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:13,980
let's let's let's put the Voynich

714
00:28:18,769 --> 00:28:16,799
manuscript in the forensic lab of my

715
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:18,779
choice and let's have our experts look

716
00:28:23,659 --> 00:28:20,970
at it and and then we'll be making some

717
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:23,669
determinations and then if the script is

718
00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:25,919
terrestrial we could bust that script

719
00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:28,470
mm-hmm yeah that makes sense I mean

720
00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:31,320
simple investigation is really all it

721
00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:33,419
takes and a lot less speculation but I

722
00:28:36,609 --> 00:28:35,100
guess they don't want to test it they

723
00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:36,619
don't want to test it maybe I'm always

724
00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:37,830
territory

725
00:28:42,919 --> 00:28:40,470
I've always had this really bad personal

726
00:28:46,489 --> 00:28:42,929
issue it's a problem and I put my money

727
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:46,499
where my mouth is why don't others and

728
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:48,480
ice all I'm asking hey send it in the

729
00:28:53,749 --> 00:28:51,090
forensics I'll pay for it I hear you man

730
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:53,759
and to bring it back to old maps a bit a

731
00:28:58,279 --> 00:28:56,399
lot of them that you show in that

732
00:29:00,919 --> 00:28:58,289
presentation a lot of old maps I've seen

733
00:29:03,049 --> 00:29:00,929
they include this phantom island called

734
00:29:05,629 --> 00:29:03,059
Friesland up near Iceland and Greenland

735
00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:05,639
some flushed out with details like names

736
00:29:09,379 --> 00:29:08,070
of cities on it - will you tell us about

737
00:29:12,019 --> 00:29:09,389
this little enigma

738
00:29:15,019 --> 00:29:12,029
bonden D capital of reason well I

739
00:29:17,060 --> 00:29:15,029
believe it was for wisher or Davis I

740
00:29:19,399 --> 00:29:17,070
believe that was the first to actually

741
00:29:22,369 --> 00:29:19,409
see it and record it and they they threw

742
00:29:24,499 --> 00:29:22,379
the coastline wrote where it was and and

743
00:29:28,190 --> 00:29:24,509
did all these things okay and and and

744
00:29:30,830 --> 00:29:28,200
said it was on the map and and later on

745
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:30,840
it wasn't there anymore it wasn't there

746
00:29:34,820 --> 00:29:33,240
anymore but in that same area it was

747
00:29:36,649 --> 00:29:34,830
like in the 40s I believe they did they

748
00:29:39,229 --> 00:29:36,659
took soundings and the

749
00:29:41,659 --> 00:29:39,239
the North Sea which is pretty doggone

750
00:29:44,629 --> 00:29:41,669
deep and rough there was an area there

751
00:29:47,629 --> 00:29:44,639
that was like only like 200 feet below

752
00:29:49,219 --> 00:29:47,639
the surface an entire area like 20 miles

753
00:29:51,469 --> 00:29:49,229
about 20 miles out there in the ocean

754
00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:51,479
that there was the surface that the

755
00:29:56,479 --> 00:29:53,460
surface wouldn't beneath the surface of

756
00:29:58,759 --> 00:29:56,489
the ocean was like you wouldn't be not

757
00:30:00,109 --> 00:29:58,769
too many 60 fathoms from laura's less or

758
00:30:02,509 --> 00:30:00,119
something like that I don't I can't

759
00:30:05,690 --> 00:30:02,519
remember exactly but I've got all that

760
00:30:07,879 --> 00:30:05,700
documentation around somewhere but it

761
00:30:11,539 --> 00:30:07,889
appears to me that it just spoke and

762
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:11,549
that area around Iceland is very active

763
00:30:16,999 --> 00:30:15,570
shall we say very active and now I also

764
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:17,009
want to point out and you might be

765
00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:18,809
interested in this as well and door

766
00:30:25,219 --> 00:30:21,539
number four my video titled door number

767
00:30:27,169 --> 00:30:25,229
four that has a bunch of artifacts my

768
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:27,179
anxa corn collection in it but I also

769
00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:31,710
showed two maps in there a Cornelius wig

770
00:30:38,930 --> 00:30:35,460
leak of 1597 and another Mateus Cuates

771
00:30:41,389 --> 00:30:38,940
of Iceland in there from like 1600 that

772
00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:41,399
didn't that that didn't make it to the

773
00:30:46,460 --> 00:30:44,220
actual Laserium app video I would have

774
00:30:48,289 --> 00:30:46,470
loved have had those maps but then the

775
00:30:50,899 --> 00:30:48,299
dadgum video would have run over two

776
00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:50,909
hours and back then VHS tapes only I'd

777
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:52,440
have had to cut something else to put

778
00:30:57,799 --> 00:30:54,690
them in put it that way so I did include

779
00:31:00,049 --> 00:30:57,809
them in another way I can't remember if

780
00:31:01,580 --> 00:31:00,059
I bought them after the video was made

781
00:31:03,589 --> 00:31:01,590
or if they came while we were shooting

782
00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:03,599
it or if I didn't have enough time to

783
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:05,190
include I can't remember exactly but

784
00:31:09,950 --> 00:31:07,769
there are two more maps that show one of

785
00:31:12,349 --> 00:31:09,960
them shows Friesland in detail and the

786
00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:12,359
other one is another my tias Cuates so

787
00:31:16,879 --> 00:31:14,940
that means I had one two three I had

788
00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:16,889
three Cuates I had three men tears

789
00:31:21,139 --> 00:31:19,320
quality hmm and that one Cornelius

790
00:31:22,969 --> 00:31:21,149
Whitley which is a gray Friesland you

791
00:31:26,299 --> 00:31:22,979
know I was a freedmen collector but the

792
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:26,309
the Iceland map had on it so many what I

793
00:31:32,629 --> 00:31:29,369
loved about the Iceland map 1500 by

794
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:32,639
Matias quality is that it had so many of

795
00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:35,039
these sea creatures in it that were

796
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:38,279
described to him and they drew these in

797
00:31:41,899 --> 00:31:40,440
the waters and such and there's so many

798
00:31:45,169 --> 00:31:41,909
creatures in the sea that we don't know

799
00:31:47,089 --> 00:31:45,179
about you know stellar sea creature that

800
00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:47,099
we don't we nobody still knows what that

801
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:49,080
was and and then they had other

802
00:31:53,299 --> 00:31:50,490
creatures that have been

803
00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:53,309
wiped out by the post-medieval sailors

804
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:55,080
you know the ones went as the industrial

805
00:31:59,180 --> 00:31:57,210
world started taking shape in the 1500s

806
00:32:01,850 --> 00:31:59,190
and 1600s they had animals that they

807
00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:01,860
just obliterated for food mm-hmm and a

808
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:03,390
lot of them in the in the northern

809
00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:06,000
regions right I mean the speculation is

810
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:08,790
that when you're out at sea you start

811
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:10,770
hallucinating or the dark just scares

812
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:12,450
people and they start using their

813
00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:13,890
imagination to see things but you think

814
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:15,780
some of these creatures we see on old

815
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:18,090
maps might have actually existed oh yeah

816
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:19,679
I believe every one of them did I've

817
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:21,330
gotten several books that talk about

818
00:32:26,419 --> 00:32:24,480
they kind of post together different

819
00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:26,429
instances of different creatures that

820
00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:29,460
are that were described by scientists

821
00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:32,070
and sea captain whether you're not

822
00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:34,020
talking you're talking guys that are of

823
00:32:38,060 --> 00:32:35,940
higher intelligence or we're not talking

824
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:38,070
grunt labor force or I mean not to put

825
00:32:42,140 --> 00:32:39,929
down anyone grunt labor force but we're

826
00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:42,150
talking educated people at that time who

827
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:44,190
were pretty much brilliant they're not

828
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:46,200
like educated people of today which are

829
00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:47,910
like they don't even know what their

830
00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:50,760
name is so the thing is is they were

831
00:32:54,770 --> 00:32:53,580
recording what they saw and many of the

832
00:32:57,799 --> 00:32:54,780
things that they saw were just

833
00:32:59,870 --> 00:32:57,809
absolutely spectacular mm-hmm

834
00:33:01,760 --> 00:32:59,880
and Charles fort records a bunch of them

835
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:01,770
even the US Navy I've got you there

836
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:04,650
what is it was it the shrine or it might

837
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:06,720
have been lecture number six where I

838
00:33:12,980 --> 00:33:09,770
show phenomena in the United States Navy

839
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:12,990
science books hmm it's absolutely

840
00:33:18,530 --> 00:33:15,210
outrageous they have no clue they have

841
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:18,540
no clue well I mean you do have some

842
00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:21,809
other ancient artifacts of coins and

843
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:24,030
other things of unknown animals it's not

844
00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:26,100
completely unheard of there's actually

845
00:33:31,820 --> 00:33:29,220
quite a few old references to animals we

846
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:31,830
just can't identify today right look at

847
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,050
Dinosauria there's a big issue there and

848
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:36,960
mammals and every about once or twice a

849
00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,330
year there is some creature that washes

850
00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:41,580
up on some shore somewhere that is

851
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:44,100
absolutely unidentified that's one

852
00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:47,010
identify now there was a what was it

853
00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:48,150
they were saying that they had the

854
00:33:55,610 --> 00:33:51,540
largest the largest sea creature ever

855
00:33:58,130 --> 00:33:55,620
found and it was on a underground camera

856
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,140
you can type it in on YouTube I imagine

857
00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:00,720
a shows a creature it's about the size

858
00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:04,230
of a oh maybe a couple of camper

859
00:34:08,419 --> 00:34:06,030
put together so you know it's pretty big

860
00:34:10,460 --> 00:34:08,429
it's pretty big no doubt but I was scuba

861
00:34:14,690 --> 00:34:10,470
diving off of coast of San Carlos Mexico

862
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:14,700
years ago and there is on there under

863
00:34:21,230 --> 00:34:18,050
it's the water there's probably 30 35

864
00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:21,240
feet deep and there is a sponge there

865
00:34:29,090 --> 00:34:24,419
that is attached to a rock and that rock

866
00:34:31,970 --> 00:34:29,100
is the size of a house it is the size of

867
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:31,980
a two-bedroom house sunk down in the bay

868
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:34,770
there and it is covered with one single

869
00:34:40,190 --> 00:34:38,220
organism a sponge it is absolutely and

870
00:34:42,109 --> 00:34:40,200
you can wave your hand over or close to

871
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:42,119
it I mean you can go and feel and touch

872
00:34:45,590 --> 00:34:44,010
it they all pull in you know they said

873
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:45,600
some kind of member of the sponge family

874
00:34:49,250 --> 00:34:47,520
or you can just wave your hand a foot in

875
00:34:52,129 --> 00:34:49,260
front of it and they all they all

876
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:52,139
respond they can they know you're there

877
00:34:57,020 --> 00:34:54,570
they know you're there and I just I was

878
00:35:01,070 --> 00:34:57,030
just in awe I mean that creature how old

879
00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:01,080
would that creature be that's a another

880
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:03,540
area where you hear stories like that is

881
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:05,790
the blue hole near Belize I mean talk

882
00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:07,290
about something that could be an

883
00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:09,150
entrance to an inner chamber in the

884
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:10,710
earth I mean that looks like it when you

885
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:13,050
look at it from like a helicopter fly

886
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:14,730
over but there's people who talk about

887
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:17,609
seeing giant squid they're a tentacle of

888
00:35:22,099 --> 00:35:19,380
a giant squid once in a while and it's

889
00:35:24,410 --> 00:35:22,109
like man yeah who knows but the bigger

890
00:35:26,540 --> 00:35:24,420
something under the ground is the bigger

891
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:26,550
home it could be for something else for

892
00:35:30,859 --> 00:35:28,170
some type of organism whether it's a

893
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:30,869
sponge on a rock or a giant squid in a

894
00:35:34,490 --> 00:35:33,240
giant hole well you make a point you

895
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:34,500
make a good point there because I

896
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:35,760
believe there's some of those blue holes

897
00:35:40,910 --> 00:35:38,010
off the coast of Bahamas or between

898
00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:40,920
Bahamas and Florida and I believe it's

899
00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:42,359
in Ocala they have some of those

900
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:45,720
bottomless holes near Ocala Florida and

901
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:47,609
some of them I mean years ago I can see

902
00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:49,920
them on Google years ago so them sure

903
00:35:53,780 --> 00:35:51,240
they're still there what perplexes me

904
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:53,790
about those which call blue holes which

905
00:35:58,849 --> 00:35:56,310
is a fine word for it so perfectly round

906
00:36:01,940 --> 00:35:58,859
yeah they're perfectly round they're not

907
00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:01,950
like jagged or square or like man this

908
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:03,750
rock here is too tough for me to carve a

909
00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:05,310
hole in I'm going to jump around and

910
00:36:08,210 --> 00:36:06,990
make people to get the idea when they

911
00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:08,220
see it from the air three or four

912
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:10,020
thousand years ahead you know after this

913
00:36:13,070 --> 00:36:11,609
but I just will leave this here it

914
00:36:14,660 --> 00:36:13,080
doesn't have to be perfect ah give or

915
00:36:17,540 --> 00:36:14,670
take a couple inches you know it look

916
00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:17,550
some guys are perfectly sick a circular

917
00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:19,980
yeah and how does that you got me

918
00:36:23,210 --> 00:36:21,060
brother you got me

919
00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:23,220
oh yeah a lot of mysteries out there oh

920
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:26,070
yeah so as far as old maps are concerned

921
00:36:30,830 --> 00:36:28,530
yet having studied as many ancient maps

922
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:30,840
as you have having as many as you had in

923
00:36:34,610 --> 00:36:32,130
your collection over the years

924
00:36:36,110 --> 00:36:34,620
are there other strange things that have

925
00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:36,120
interested you about them that you could

926
00:36:41,330 --> 00:36:39,060
share well just some of the descriptions

927
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:41,340
of the people they talk about the scray

928
00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:44,160
lingers thus cravings and then some of

929
00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:46,140
the things that happen later concerning

930
00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:48,900
what was known as scaling the oldest map

931
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:50,790
that I had was the Vegas River map

932
00:36:56,780 --> 00:36:53,850
carved on Stone which humans map of

933
00:37:01,250 --> 00:36:56,790
rivers by Helios that had to predate it

934
00:37:04,850 --> 00:37:01,260
well that could have been 20 20 BC to 20

935
00:37:07,790 --> 00:37:04,860
25 BC to 25 AD who knows is somewhere

936
00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:07,800
along in there and that was as old that

937
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:09,990
was the only map I had carved on Stone

938
00:37:14,330 --> 00:37:12,720
that actually owned but then in one of

939
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:14,340
my other presentations I showed just

940
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:17,910
dozens of these old maps carved in stone

941
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,310
that coincidentally just kind of follow

942
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:22,800
right along with what some of the

943
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:24,570
obscure information from the Smithsonian

944
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:28,290
had hmm think it's a big brain gulp I'll

945
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:29,090
guarantee you that

946
00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:32,010
in terms of types of people I think one

947
00:37:35,930 --> 00:37:34,440
of those maps does describe on the Bargo

948
00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:35,940
Cylons that they're supposed to be a

949
00:37:40,370 --> 00:37:38,040
pygmy race there so they've got

950
00:37:42,350 --> 00:37:40,380
descriptions of a race of people there

951
00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:42,360
and we don't even have access to the

952
00:37:47,420 --> 00:37:45,360
island apparently correct and and when

953
00:37:48,860 --> 00:37:47,430
you see Eskimo and I've met ask you

954
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:48,870
among people before I met I miss a

955
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:51,930
minuet there short but they're not pygmy

956
00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:55,110
and and the Europeans they were only

957
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:57,060
familiar with the African pygmies they

958
00:38:03,050 --> 00:37:58,770
would not have called a short person

959
00:38:05,180 --> 00:38:03,060
like an inuit mexico eskimo there was

960
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:05,190
not have called them pygmies unless they

961
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:08,130
were like shorter I mean a pygmy you get

962
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:09,660
the ideas like three and a half to four

963
00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:13,170
foot tall or less and and the Eskimo

964
00:38:21,830 --> 00:38:17,880
don't go five feet you know so I have a

965
00:38:24,740 --> 00:38:21,840
hard time putting Eskimo into the pygmy

966
00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:24,750
category yeah yeah seems like there's

967
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:26,460
something else out there for sure yeah

968
00:38:31,099 --> 00:38:28,800
and we talked about Friesland which is

969
00:38:33,259 --> 00:38:31,109
awesome I mean to have I

970
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:33,269
on maps it has many different cities

971
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,579
even has a capital on it and then a

972
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:37,440
couple hundred years later the island is

973
00:38:41,509 --> 00:38:39,930
just gone I mean that's quite a mystery

974
00:38:43,069 --> 00:38:41,519
but speaking of phantom islands I've

975
00:38:45,319 --> 00:38:43,079
been getting a lot of requests to talk

976
00:38:47,539 --> 00:38:45,329
about Atlantis and you do show one map

977
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:47,549
you say is the oldest known depiction of

978
00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:48,930
Atlantis what are your thoughts on this

979
00:38:53,299 --> 00:38:51,900
mystery well my thoughts are that I

980
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:53,309
don't have any thoughts I'm just going

981
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:54,930
to relate to you what what what Kircher

982
00:39:00,259 --> 00:38:57,210
says in 1663 mm-hm

983
00:39:02,839 --> 00:39:00,269
he says he's quoting from Plato and and

984
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:02,849
and he talks and now I want to point

985
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:04,890
this out to you and you might write this

986
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,049
down or check it out yourself I go into

987
00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:09,359
that map in more detail during the

988
00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:12,180
Denver lecture the Denver lecture and

989
00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:13,980
that's it it's called the oldest

990
00:39:17,269 --> 00:39:15,630
authentic map of Atlantis it's on

991
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,279
YouTube and a bunch of people have

992
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:19,680
embedded it it's got like several

993
00:39:25,819 --> 00:39:21,930
hundred thousand views but I talk about

994
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,829
what Kircher says in his map and he says

995
00:39:30,549 --> 00:39:27,599
he's getting it from Plato but it's not

996
00:39:32,839 --> 00:39:30,559
in Plato up today so we can say today

997
00:39:35,479 --> 00:39:32,849
unequivocally in accurately the plato

998
00:39:37,549 --> 00:39:35,489
has been sanitized he talks about that

999
00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:37,559
there was a huge island there and that

1000
00:39:42,829 --> 00:39:39,180
they had a mission who Ches right in

1001
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:42,839
1663 they had a machine there that board

1002
00:39:47,269 --> 00:39:44,609
through the main mountain range that

1003
00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:47,279
went through Atlantis that there was a

1004
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:49,140
mountain range in Atlantis and they had

1005
00:39:53,029 --> 00:39:50,970
this machine that was a mining machine

1006
00:39:54,799 --> 00:39:53,039
and that they were mining minerals and

1007
00:39:57,170 --> 00:39:54,809
he didn't know there was no

1008
00:39:59,660 --> 00:39:57,180
specification of what exact mineral it

1009
00:40:01,579 --> 00:39:59,670
was that they were mining but that the

1010
00:40:05,180 --> 00:40:01,589
whole mountain would became honeycombed

1011
00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:05,190
with tunnels and caves because or mining

1012
00:40:09,620 --> 00:40:07,140
passages I guess would be a better at

1013
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:09,630
more accurate depiction that this

1014
00:40:12,829 --> 00:40:11,249
machine went through this mountain so

1015
00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:12,839
much it was just honeycombed and they

1016
00:40:16,249 --> 00:40:14,339
had just about mined out all this

1017
00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:16,259
mineral out of it that they could and

1018
00:40:18,890 --> 00:40:17,700
they kept going and through and going

1019
00:40:20,569 --> 00:40:18,900
through me and that there was a slight

1020
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:20,579
earthquake and then right after that

1021
00:40:24,349 --> 00:40:22,710
slight earthquake boom the whole island

1022
00:40:28,819 --> 00:40:24,359
just collapsed in on top of itself and

1023
00:40:30,890 --> 00:40:28,829
that's printed in 1653 in latin so it's

1024
00:40:33,229 --> 00:40:30,900
going to be hard to go back further with

1025
00:40:35,479 --> 00:40:33,239
that but i just want to say that there

1026
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:35,489
are so many classical authors that

1027
00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:37,920
mention atlantis and i believe i cover

1028
00:40:44,730 --> 00:40:41,460
that a sequel to that in my video called

1029
00:40:46,650 --> 00:40:44,740
the shrine the shrine i show you all

1030
00:40:50,660 --> 00:40:46,660
the classical historians and that's

1031
00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:50,670
where I point out my round earth theory

1032
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:53,740
around Earth theory that everybody from

1033
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:54,970
the ancient world knew the earth was

1034
00:41:01,200 --> 00:40:59,440
round so and in that I show but they say

1035
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:01,210
oh Plato Plato but I believe it was

1036
00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:05,410
Strabo Dionysius the adora is playing as

1037
00:41:08,490 --> 00:41:06,700
there were so many people that mentioned

1038
00:41:09,690 --> 00:41:08,500
Atlanta and I should show it to you

1039
00:41:11,609 --> 00:41:09,700
right there I show that you show it to

1040
00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:11,619
you out of the book and they were

1041
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:14,200
writing what 2,000 years ago it wasn't

1042
00:41:19,170 --> 00:41:17,170
just Plato it wasn't just Plato there

1043
00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:19,180
were other but you have to read a lot of

1044
00:41:23,490 --> 00:41:21,460
books to find these little jewels I mean

1045
00:41:25,859 --> 00:41:23,500
I pick up an old classical book I have

1046
00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:25,869
to read the whole book hoping to find

1047
00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:28,660
one sentence or one Jew one needle mmm

1048
00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:31,990
right and I still have guests to debate

1049
00:41:36,510 --> 00:41:34,420
where Atlantis was where do you place it

1050
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:36,520
where does the research show middle of

1051
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:38,590
the Atlantic somewhere yeah I mean just

1052
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:41,170
just out there along the Atlantic Ridge

1053
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:44,950
possibly or I believe it was as large as

1054
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:48,610
what oxidations Kircher draws it I you

1055
00:41:52,770 --> 00:41:51,310
know only only because only because I

1056
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:52,780
mean it could have been smaller or I

1057
00:41:58,050 --> 00:41:55,119
thought he did a good job I thought he

1058
00:42:00,900 --> 00:41:58,060
did a good job and and now now you've

1059
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:00,910
got people putting out videos on

1060
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,000
Atlantis that are using my photos and my

1061
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:06,160
they're lifting their their their

1062
00:42:10,980 --> 00:42:08,770
material from my videos which I don't

1063
00:42:12,359 --> 00:42:10,990
really mind you know it would be nice if

1064
00:42:13,890 --> 00:42:12,369
they would give some credit but I

1065
00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:13,900
haven't actually seen some Atlantis

1066
00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:15,940
videos and they're just using my

1067
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:18,460
material right there you know and that's

1068
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:20,530
what people do today a researcher of

1069
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:23,290
today is only familiar with Google and

1070
00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:26,050
Wikipedia that's in right and you make

1071
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,140
good points about going back to older

1072
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:31,359
sources things from the 1600s to the

1073
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:34,090
1800s those are the sources that allow

1074
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:36,609
you to bypass the sanitation and the

1075
00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:39,280
censorship that is so prevalent today

1076
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:41,980
and you're right on you you get one of

1077
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:43,990
these old books just for one great

1078
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:46,000
little piece of information those are

1079
00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:47,470
the nuggets I'm hungry for because

1080
00:42:51,870 --> 00:42:49,540
there's no question a lot of things have

1081
00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:51,880
been altered and changed and that little

1082
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:53,950
window of time is where you can probably

1083
00:42:58,299 --> 00:42:57,010
get some great insights they didn't have

1084
00:43:03,939 --> 00:42:58,309
an agenda

1085
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:03,949
keep people dumb hmm and or or to

1086
00:43:09,130 --> 00:43:07,249
promote the Darwinian theories or their

1087
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,140
theories of government and how people

1088
00:43:13,959 --> 00:43:11,599
should act and be they were just trying

1089
00:43:16,809 --> 00:43:13,969
to document and record accurate

1090
00:43:20,859 --> 00:43:16,819
information so it gives you a completely

1091
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:20,869
different angle and they wrote what they

1092
00:43:28,660 --> 00:43:24,319
saw in most cases that's or from

1093
00:43:31,959 --> 00:43:28,670
reliable sources so yeah we don't have

1094
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:31,969
that very much anymore that's why when

1095
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:33,650
you said that there's nothing else like

1096
00:43:38,410 --> 00:43:36,529
what I do on the internet I take that as

1097
00:43:40,059 --> 00:43:38,420
a big big compliment because I'm so

1098
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:40,069
happy that you notice that because I

1099
00:43:45,459 --> 00:43:42,319
don't feel that there is anything else

1100
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:45,469
on the internet that shows you because

1101
00:43:48,910 --> 00:43:46,880
most people I'm not going to mention

1102
00:43:50,469 --> 00:43:48,920
names but I could I could rattle off 40

1103
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,479
right now they make it up as they go

1104
00:43:54,699 --> 00:43:53,119
they don't show you in a book they don't

1105
00:43:57,249 --> 00:43:54,709
show you in a book printed before World

1106
00:43:59,650 --> 00:43:57,259
War two you know most historians of

1107
00:44:01,420 --> 00:43:59,660
today have never ever held a history

1108
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:01,430
book printed before World War two in

1109
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:03,170
their hands they've never even held a

1110
00:44:06,429 --> 00:44:04,880
book of history book before World War

1111
00:44:08,349 --> 00:44:06,439
two they just assumed that everything

1112
00:44:10,179 --> 00:44:08,359
after World War two is all this is our

1113
00:44:12,459 --> 00:44:10,189
history this is correct and that's what

1114
00:44:13,779 --> 00:44:12,469
they go by but wait a minute wait a

1115
00:44:16,029 --> 00:44:13,789
minute lookie here look at these books

1116
00:44:17,859 --> 00:44:16,039
and that's kind of what I did with it's

1117
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:17,869
a play on words my searching for

1118
00:44:23,019 --> 00:44:20,569
Thanksgiving it really shows you how the

1119
00:44:25,749 --> 00:44:23,029
history books get twisted as time goes

1120
00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:25,759
along that's really it does it I use I

1121
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:29,390
use Thanksgiving as a focal point to

1122
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:32,209
show you how history has just gotten so

1123
00:44:36,189 --> 00:44:34,640
twisted and then you can apply that

1124
00:44:38,949 --> 00:44:36,199
really to many more of my subjects

1125
00:44:41,049 --> 00:44:38,959
mm-hmm yeah it is great what you do

1126
00:44:42,759 --> 00:44:41,059
because you take these old sources that

1127
00:44:45,999 --> 00:44:42,769
they really don't want anybody to know

1128
00:44:47,769 --> 00:44:46,009
about anymore and you propel them and

1129
00:44:50,049 --> 00:44:47,779
immortalize them by putting them on the

1130
00:44:52,509 --> 00:44:50,059
internet which almost nobody's doing

1131
00:44:55,449 --> 00:44:52,519
because nobody even goes out to these

1132
00:44:57,579 --> 00:44:55,459
old old sources they don't have the

1133
00:45:00,999 --> 00:44:57,589
money and they don't have the resources

1134
00:45:03,429 --> 00:45:01,009
and they don't have the time they count

1135
00:45:05,380 --> 00:45:03,439
those a research oh yeah I gotta get on

1136
00:45:06,729 --> 00:45:05,390
Google I got to get on Google and that's

1137
00:45:08,739 --> 00:45:06,739
what we'll talk about later with the

1138
00:45:10,419 --> 00:45:08,749
Giants I know you wanted to touch them

1139
00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:10,429
on that well we'll get to that later but

1140
00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:12,140
yeah you're right you're right

1141
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:13,790
if the people aren't going to take the

1142
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:16,730
time to scan a book printed in one 1600

1143
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,210
or 1700 or 1800s and and show you what

1144
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:22,400
this guy said and then show you what

1145
00:45:26,050 --> 00:45:24,110
they print today that's completely

1146
00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:26,060
different they don't want you to know

1147
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,310
they want everybody to be in step and in

1148
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:30,800
line mm-hmm and for people who aren't

1149
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:33,650
familiar with you or your collection can

1150
00:45:37,420 --> 00:45:35,690
you give us some details about the size

1151
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:37,430
and scope of the artifacts in your

1152
00:45:42,460 --> 00:45:39,200
collection some of the contents of it

1153
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:42,470
well you can see I don't have myself

1154
00:45:48,130 --> 00:45:44,690
let's see hang on I think I only have

1155
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:48,140
here one artifact I only have one

1156
00:45:53,860 --> 00:45:51,410
artifact but my neighbors and my close

1157
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:53,870
friends have like hundreds so I don't

1158
00:45:57,610 --> 00:45:56,090
really need them but if I'm doing a

1159
00:46:00,490 --> 00:45:57,620
video or something I will borrow

1160
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,500
artifacts and I want them stored at

1161
00:46:04,090 --> 00:46:02,240
different places I used to have a bunch

1162
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:04,100
of artifacts I had a devastating fire

1163
00:46:08,980 --> 00:46:05,930
back in o8 that could have been a

1164
00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:08,990
conspiracy I don't know but I had 15 15

1165
00:46:12,910 --> 00:46:10,280
pieces go up in smoke

1166
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:12,920
and and two ancient coins that are worth

1167
00:46:17,830 --> 00:46:14,570
that were worth probably 50 grand a

1168
00:46:20,260 --> 00:46:17,840
piece and go up in smoke I've only got

1169
00:46:22,300 --> 00:46:20,270
one artifact here now and it is so

1170
00:46:25,060 --> 00:46:22,310
absolutely incredible I could never ever

1171
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:25,070
ever get rid of it because it crosses so

1172
00:46:30,820 --> 00:46:28,730
many angles the largest piece of calcite

1173
00:46:32,980 --> 00:46:30,830
that anybody's ever seen and it glows in

1174
00:46:35,650 --> 00:46:32,990
the dark and it's just an absolute

1175
00:46:38,140 --> 00:46:35,660
spectacular artifact Wow we're not I'm

1176
00:46:40,510 --> 00:46:38,150
from Illinois Illinois Illinois caves

1177
00:46:44,530 --> 00:46:40,520
here gotcha and it's absolutely

1178
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:44,540
outrageous and so but I don't consider

1179
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:46,130
my ancient coin collection to be

1180
00:46:50,770 --> 00:46:48,890
artifacts as far as me collecting it

1181
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:50,780
what I collect I collect encyclopedia

1182
00:46:55,330 --> 00:46:53,090
sets and whereas the phosphorescent

1183
00:46:57,100 --> 00:46:55,340
minerals more so than anything else I've

1184
00:46:59,680 --> 00:46:57,110
got a world-class mineral collection

1185
00:47:03,340 --> 00:46:59,690
that I don't I don't even talk about you

1186
00:47:05,590 --> 00:47:03,350
know nobody's interested in rocks you

1187
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:05,600
know unless geologists scientist etc etc

1188
00:47:09,550 --> 00:47:08,000
I do have a I live out in the middle of

1189
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:09,560
a very remote region out in the middle

1190
00:47:14,110 --> 00:47:12,170
of nowhere and there's no reason to come

1191
00:47:15,690 --> 00:47:14,120
and Rob me because nobody wants a bunch

1192
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:15,700
of old books or a bunch of rocks

1193
00:47:23,290 --> 00:47:19,370
so you know beyond that right but not

1194
00:47:24,789 --> 00:47:23,300
now I do have one two three four four

1195
00:47:28,429 --> 00:47:24,799
boxes

1196
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:28,439
replicated gold pieces I've got maybe a

1197
00:47:35,329 --> 00:47:31,890
hundred and twenty pounds of replicated

1198
00:47:37,279 --> 00:47:35,339
gold coins medallions bars and ingot

1199
00:47:39,529 --> 00:47:37,289
that that I got from the state of

1200
00:47:42,339 --> 00:47:39,539
Indiana that they got from Jack Ward

1201
00:47:44,539 --> 00:47:42,349
that him and Russell burles had made

1202
00:47:45,949 --> 00:47:44,549
years and years ago which is pretty

1203
00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:45,959
spectacular I mean you can see a lot of

1204
00:47:51,259 --> 00:47:48,900
those on my facebook site which is

1205
00:47:52,579 --> 00:47:51,269
Illinois cave the Illinois caves on

1206
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:52,589
Facebook you can see a bunch of

1207
00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:53,849
artifacts you can see a bunch of

1208
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:56,579
reptilian pieces there you can see a

1209
00:48:03,019 --> 00:47:59,599
bunch of decipherment there and it's

1210
00:48:06,979 --> 00:48:03,029
extremely obscure ancient languages I

1211
00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:06,989
mean not like just extremely obscure

1212
00:48:11,779 --> 00:48:09,390
ancient languages well that's the thing

1213
00:48:13,609 --> 00:48:11,789
there seems to be quite a few languages

1214
00:48:15,979 --> 00:48:13,619
the mainstream doesn't acknowledge your

1215
00:48:18,589 --> 00:48:15,989
work touches on that a few times but as

1216
00:48:20,749 --> 00:48:18,599
far as lost civilizations that these

1217
00:48:22,429 --> 00:48:20,759
languages might have come from of course

1218
00:48:24,769 --> 00:48:22,439
we talked a little bit about Atlantis

1219
00:48:26,959 --> 00:48:24,779
which would definitely have been one of

1220
00:48:29,449 --> 00:48:26,969
them but have there been any other cases

1221
00:48:31,579 --> 00:48:29,459
of lost civilizations that you've come

1222
00:48:33,169 --> 00:48:31,589
across that have intrigued you I don't

1223
00:48:35,870 --> 00:48:33,179
think there's been a lost civilization

1224
00:48:38,419 --> 00:48:35,880
that hasn't intrigued me they were

1225
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:38,429
digging in Ohio and it was 90 feet down

1226
00:48:42,709 --> 00:48:40,650
in the ground where they came in in the

1227
00:48:44,899 --> 00:48:42,719
bend of a river for some reason I've got

1228
00:48:47,269 --> 00:48:44,909
it one of my books from the 1800's here

1229
00:48:49,699 --> 00:48:47,279
I think of the trend in 1831 when they

1230
00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:49,709
came across a log cabin that had two

1231
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:52,859
infants in it and a man and a woman

1232
00:48:55,219 --> 00:48:54,689
twisted together evidently they were

1233
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:55,229
making love

1234
00:49:01,819 --> 00:48:58,559
coitus okay or sleeping with their legs

1235
00:49:03,979 --> 00:49:01,829
between entwined and just you know the

1236
00:49:05,659 --> 00:49:03,989
mud or something landfall landslide

1237
00:49:08,059 --> 00:49:05,669
something just crushed them in that

1238
00:49:10,789 --> 00:49:08,069
position which means whatever happened

1239
00:49:13,549 --> 00:49:10,799
happened instantaneously yeah and that's

1240
00:49:16,759 --> 00:49:13,559
what my take is on a lot of ancient

1241
00:49:19,549 --> 00:49:16,769
history is it happened instantaneously I

1242
00:49:20,779 --> 00:49:19,559
believe it is you know it is my now I'm

1243
00:49:23,419 --> 00:49:20,789
going to give you my opinion on some

1244
00:49:24,949 --> 00:49:23,429
things but like the Grand Canyon I don't

1245
00:49:26,359 --> 00:49:24,959
believe that it took millions and

1246
00:49:28,429 --> 00:49:26,369
millions and millions of years before I

1247
00:49:30,529 --> 00:49:28,439
believe it was formed into food just a

1248
00:49:32,919 --> 00:49:30,539
matter of seconds and I'll tell you this

1249
00:49:35,779 --> 00:49:32,929
I was at a point in Alabama one time

1250
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:35,789
looking through a large canyon and my

1251
00:49:41,410 --> 00:49:38,510
binoculars and I was looking at low

1252
00:49:43,630 --> 00:49:41,420
miles away a cloud came in and a bolt of

1253
00:49:46,990 --> 00:49:43,640
lightning hit a rock and that rock

1254
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:47,000
exploded if that rock exploded out into

1255
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,130
the canyon and several trees that were

1256
00:49:54,670 --> 00:49:51,440
above that rock all fell and slid and

1257
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:54,680
the canyon L at once and that was a big

1258
00:49:59,110 --> 00:49:57,170
change in the landscape and the same

1259
00:50:01,180 --> 00:49:59,120
thing with a lake titicaca I believe

1260
00:50:03,550 --> 00:50:01,190
that Lake Titicaca was down closer to

1261
00:50:06,130 --> 00:50:03,560
the surface at one time maybe even some

1262
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,140
kind of ocean portal and there boom just

1263
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:08,480
shot 13,000 feet straight up into the

1264
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:10,910
air in a matter of second move hmm and

1265
00:50:14,860 --> 00:50:13,010
their boat there's nothing left you know

1266
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:14,870
you're the human body can't take it

1267
00:50:18,490 --> 00:50:16,490
human body can't take it can't take

1268
00:50:21,010 --> 00:50:18,500
landslides can't take me in crush can't

1269
00:50:22,690 --> 00:50:21,020
take being frozen and same thing with

1270
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:22,700
some of these the fossil finds that they

1271
00:50:26,050 --> 00:50:24,530
have like in the Rockies what Green

1272
00:50:28,330 --> 00:50:26,060
River Wyoming where all the fish

1273
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:28,340
thousands of fish fossilized in stone

1274
00:50:32,350 --> 00:50:30,890
and they're all all the fins are excited

1275
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:32,360
whatever happened happened

1276
00:50:37,060 --> 00:50:35,450
instantaneously and I'm a cataclysmic I

1277
00:50:38,740 --> 00:50:37,070
believe when the big guy upstairs gets

1278
00:50:41,740 --> 00:50:38,750
tired of it and he wants to change it he

1279
00:50:44,170 --> 00:50:41,750
just flicks it right off so we are

1280
00:50:47,170 --> 00:50:44,180
talking about this agenda that occurred

1281
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:47,180
largely ramping up after World War Two

1282
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:49,130
and it's changed a lot of things from

1283
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:51,610
these old sources what are the biggest

1284
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:53,330
manipulations you see what are the

1285
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:55,490
biggest differences and some of this old

1286
00:51:01,870 --> 00:50:57,890
material as compared to what we have now

1287
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:01,880
what they leave out what they leave out

1288
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:05,450
such as the Giants okay and you got a

1289
00:51:09,460 --> 00:51:07,310
lot of people that are real so heavy

1290
00:51:11,650 --> 00:51:09,470
into Giants right now it's like the

1291
00:51:14,350 --> 00:51:11,660
Giants now or jump on the plane the

1292
00:51:16,510 --> 00:51:14,360
giant bandwagon everybody you got this

1293
00:51:17,530 --> 00:51:16,520
guy's an expert on giant discs where

1294
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:17,540
they got all their information from

1295
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:20,240
Google or Wikipedia they never read a

1296
00:51:24,820 --> 00:51:22,880
book about Giants or now maybe they have

1297
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:24,830
an old man that they read somewhere

1298
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:26,330
there's a reference to an old book in

1299
00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:28,490
the 80 no all the books I had from the

1300
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:31,640
1800s has in them all over the place my

1301
00:51:36,550 --> 00:51:34,490
book my dad had book on books on Giants

1302
00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:36,560
back in the 60s and then of course I

1303
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:39,190
grew up on Frank Edwards works

1304
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:41,330
there's Giants in there there's a

1305
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:43,910
Charles port writes about Giants William

1306
00:51:47,830 --> 00:51:45,530
Corliss in the seventy's and eighty's

1307
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:47,840
wrote about Giants but none of the none

1308
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:49,280
of these guys were ever interested in

1309
00:51:52,059 --> 00:51:50,720
Giants until they hear somebody else

1310
00:51:53,410 --> 00:51:52,069
mention it mm-hmm

1311
00:51:55,509 --> 00:51:53,420
that's the thing about even the little

1312
00:51:58,329 --> 00:51:55,519
people even little people it goes

1313
00:52:01,269 --> 00:51:58,339
against the grain of the Darwinian that

1314
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:01,279
Darwinism theory of evolution and that's

1315
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:03,170
what they want everybody to believe and

1316
00:52:07,539 --> 00:52:05,209
and I'm going to say it you know just

1317
00:52:09,309 --> 00:52:07,549
straight up I believe anyone who

1318
00:52:11,380 --> 00:52:09,319
believes in the theory of evolution is

1319
00:52:14,259 --> 00:52:11,390
just absolutely blind and ignorant

1320
00:52:16,359 --> 00:52:14,269
because they don't include things that

1321
00:52:18,009 --> 00:52:16,369
go against it like little people I can

1322
00:52:20,620 --> 00:52:18,019
take you out to the place in New Mexico

1323
00:52:22,749 --> 00:52:20,630
and show you entire villages that are

1324
00:52:25,479 --> 00:52:22,759
ancient prehistoric and all the doors

1325
00:52:27,009 --> 00:52:25,489
are like 22 inches tall really I mean

1326
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:27,019
just a rug built right into the clip

1327
00:52:33,279 --> 00:52:30,319
excuse me foxes and Gophers didn't build

1328
00:52:35,049 --> 00:52:33,289
that that's true and I can't see any

1329
00:52:36,939 --> 00:52:35,059
humans building of wasting so much time

1330
00:52:38,890 --> 00:52:36,949
and you look inside them and they're

1331
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:38,900
like little little households and stuff

1332
00:52:44,469 --> 00:52:42,049
in there well okay well oh but if it

1333
00:52:46,539 --> 00:52:44,479
doesn't if it's not included in the

1334
00:52:49,029 --> 00:52:46,549
Darwinian the Darwinian theory of

1335
00:52:51,489 --> 00:52:49,039
evolution which all the sight all this I

1336
00:52:52,959 --> 00:52:51,499
got I got so many ancient I mean fossil

1337
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:52,969
books and dinosaur books and it's all

1338
00:52:56,170 --> 00:52:54,410
evolution evolution evolution evolution

1339
00:52:58,839 --> 00:52:56,180
and these guys they ain't got a clue

1340
00:53:00,910 --> 00:52:58,849
they don't have it and I will debate any

1341
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:00,920
of them anytime anywhere and I think

1342
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:02,209
they better have their act together

1343
00:53:06,459 --> 00:53:04,729
because I've got all their books I've

1344
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:06,469
got more books about it than they have

1345
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:09,170
and guess what I've read an underlined

1346
00:53:13,779 --> 00:53:12,049
mine I know what they say so I would go

1347
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:13,789
it is so easy to crush an evolutionist

1348
00:53:17,769 --> 00:53:16,160
so because the only thing an

1349
00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:17,779
evolutionist knows is what they see on a

1350
00:53:21,279 --> 00:53:19,940
one-hour program on Discovery what

1351
00:53:25,029 --> 00:53:21,289
they've been taught in school or college

1352
00:53:26,529 --> 00:53:25,039
you know homo sapien and internet what

1353
00:53:28,479 --> 00:53:26,539
were the bones oh they don't exist so

1354
00:53:30,489 --> 00:53:28,489
we'll make them up oh no here's got this

1355
00:53:32,439 --> 00:53:30,499
species here no no this includes this

1356
00:53:34,180 --> 00:53:32,449
species that's includes this species

1357
00:53:37,660 --> 00:53:34,190
because as you said you say okay let's

1358
00:53:40,209 --> 00:53:37,670
say I am surprised that right now with

1359
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:40,219
Brian Forrester who does a lot of work

1360
00:53:45,279 --> 00:53:42,529
down in Peru with the elongated skulls

1361
00:53:47,259 --> 00:53:45,289
that they're even allowing him to just

1362
00:53:49,329 --> 00:53:47,269
watch notoriety because these elongated

1363
00:53:51,069 --> 00:53:49,339
skulls they're natural well that's a

1364
00:53:52,569 --> 00:53:51,079
completely different human species okay

1365
00:53:54,609 --> 00:53:52,579
look at the Calavera skulls look at what

1366
00:53:57,849 --> 00:53:54,619
they found 500 feet deep in the ground

1367
00:53:59,769 --> 00:53:57,859
in Calaveras County California and it

1368
00:54:02,559 --> 00:53:59,779
was worth somewhere in Utah under 11

1369
00:54:05,499 --> 00:54:02,569
feet of bedrock they found modern human

1370
00:54:06,699 --> 00:54:05,509
bones with modern human teeth okay okay

1371
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:06,709
well let's just let's not let's just

1372
00:54:10,539 --> 00:54:08,329
throw that out let's throw that out that

1373
00:54:12,279 --> 00:54:10,549
doesn't match our theory anything that

1374
00:54:13,809 --> 00:54:12,289
doesn't match so you got a lot of people

1375
00:54:15,729 --> 00:54:13,819
that are just totally ignorant stupid

1376
00:54:17,739 --> 00:54:15,739
and blind and that's what I'm saying

1377
00:54:19,689 --> 00:54:17,749
about anyone if you're out there and

1378
00:54:21,099 --> 00:54:19,699
you're listening and you and you believe

1379
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:21,109
in the theory of evolution that we all

1380
00:54:25,149 --> 00:54:23,359
came from monkeys it is it's not your

1381
00:54:27,249 --> 00:54:25,159
fault it's not your fault you just need

1382
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:27,259
to do some more research you need that

1383
00:54:33,129 --> 00:54:30,049
you are falling in step because it has

1384
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:33,139
to do to me the mindset Oh will with my

1385
00:54:35,859 --> 00:54:34,249
great great great great great great

1386
00:54:37,989 --> 00:54:35,869
great and our granddaddy was a gorilla

1387
00:54:40,059 --> 00:54:37,999
the you know that means that I'm going

1388
00:54:42,219 --> 00:54:40,069
to send another gorilla it takes away a

1389
00:54:44,499 --> 00:54:42,229
spiritual seed and that's what they've

1390
00:54:47,229 --> 00:54:44,509
done they've they've dumb downs and the

1391
00:54:50,349 --> 00:54:47,239
dumbing down of America worked far far

1392
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:50,359
better than anyone ever dreamed yeah you

1393
00:54:55,359 --> 00:54:52,880
can't argue at that so it is interesting

1394
00:54:57,669 --> 00:54:55,369
that you grew up with all the stuff so

1395
00:55:00,009 --> 00:54:57,679
normalized Giants normalized the Hollow

1396
00:55:03,789 --> 00:55:00,019
Earth idea not a big deal is there

1397
00:55:06,339 --> 00:55:03,799
anything similar to the Giants or maybe

1398
00:55:08,589 --> 00:55:06,349
other humanoids from our past that

1399
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:08,599
you've known about that have yet to be

1400
00:55:13,269 --> 00:55:11,209
as trendy as the Giants well my father

1401
00:55:15,009 --> 00:55:13,279
was it like I told you mom my father was

1402
00:55:16,839 --> 00:55:15,019
into flying saucers and UFOs he had

1403
00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:16,849
those books around so I guess your

1404
00:55:22,389 --> 00:55:20,630
question is your probing to see if I

1405
00:55:25,179 --> 00:55:22,399
could maybe predict the next trendy

1406
00:55:28,659 --> 00:55:25,189
during the issue let me think for a

1407
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:28,669
second let me think for a second I

1408
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:31,369
believe that the ancient buried cities

1409
00:55:36,749 --> 00:55:33,649
is going to become more of more in vogue

1410
00:55:40,149 --> 00:55:36,759
the buried cities are going and

1411
00:55:42,459 --> 00:55:40,159
eventually not only giants but human

1412
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:42,469
skulls people are going to realize at

1413
00:55:46,509 --> 00:55:44,569
some point even the scientists no matter

1414
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:46,519
how dumb and stupid the scientists are

1415
00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:48,169
and no matter how ignorant and blinded

1416
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:50,809
they are they're going to have to and

1417
00:55:55,929 --> 00:55:53,089
especially the anthropologist they're

1418
00:55:59,739 --> 00:55:55,939
going to have to accept the elongated

1419
00:56:01,269 --> 00:55:59,749
skulls the strange strange skulls that

1420
00:56:04,089 --> 00:56:01,279
they found out in the American Southwest

1421
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:04,099
I mean I show several of them and these

1422
00:56:08,139 --> 00:56:06,529
books are printed in the 1800s well can

1423
00:56:09,309 --> 00:56:08,149
you imagine having skulls like that

1424
00:56:13,479 --> 00:56:09,319
trying to get a book deal

1425
00:56:15,129 --> 00:56:13,489
printed in today 5 you wouldn't have no

1426
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:15,139
no no he's got to be Homo sapiens

1427
00:56:19,390 --> 00:56:17,839
sapiens sapiens Savior you know but he's

1428
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:19,400
not she is not

1429
00:56:24,579 --> 00:56:21,680
they're not and and I'm not so sure

1430
00:56:26,529 --> 00:56:24,589
about the Starchild skull yeah you know

1431
00:56:28,210 --> 00:56:26,539
I'm not so sure about that but like I

1432
00:56:30,190 --> 00:56:28,220
said they there's a bunch of them in

1433
00:56:32,289 --> 00:56:30,200
Mesa Verde and there were a bunch of

1434
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,299
them in Missouri they found a whole

1435
00:56:37,630 --> 00:56:34,880
Cemetery of them in Missouri yeah

1436
00:56:40,539 --> 00:56:37,640
and so these are different species of

1437
00:56:43,779 --> 00:56:40,549
humans and I have to say that uh like a

1438
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:43,789
Bill Nye the stupid guy he goes and says

1439
00:56:49,390 --> 00:56:45,760
oh no no all humans are the same species

1440
00:56:52,329 --> 00:56:49,400
right okay the blacks the Chinese the

1441
00:56:54,099 --> 00:56:52,339
[\h__\h] is always the Native American this

1442
00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:54,109
knows everybody's the same species I

1443
00:56:59,230 --> 00:56:56,569
just want to make a point there are two

1444
00:57:02,380 --> 00:56:59,240
species of Meadowlark in North America

1445
00:57:04,569 --> 00:57:02,390
one lives on the east side of the

1446
00:57:06,579 --> 00:57:04,579
Mississippi and one lives on the west

1447
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:06,589
side of the Mississippi pretty much I

1448
00:57:11,049 --> 00:57:08,089
think there's a few of the Easterns on

1449
00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:11,059
the west side there are two species of

1450
00:57:15,970 --> 00:57:13,670
Meadowlark they are the same size they

1451
00:57:18,220 --> 00:57:15,980
are the same color in every way you know

1452
00:57:21,250 --> 00:57:18,230
what the only difference is their song

1453
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:21,260
their song the way they speak is the

1454
00:57:25,420 --> 00:57:23,359
only difference they're two different

1455
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:25,430
species come on and you're not saying

1456
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:28,010
that the Chinese men and or is different

1457
00:57:33,089 --> 00:57:29,450
than the black man everybody's one

1458
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:33,099
species that is just absolute stupidity

1459
00:57:37,329 --> 00:57:35,930
stupidity and and I would just love the

1460
00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:37,339
opportunity to choose some of these

1461
00:57:42,339 --> 00:57:40,190
scientists to pieces to them to eat them

1462
00:57:44,589 --> 00:57:42,349
for breakfast send them home to their

1463
00:57:48,579 --> 00:57:44,599
mommy with a spank on the fanny and

1464
00:57:50,769 --> 00:57:48,589
crying well I would like to see

1465
00:57:52,809 --> 00:57:50,779
underground cities get more play I know

1466
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:52,819
I've gone through the chronicling

1467
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:55,130
America website the Library of Congress

1468
00:57:58,750 --> 00:57:56,930
where they put all the old newspapers

1469
00:58:00,730 --> 00:57:58,760
online I don't even know why they let us

1470
00:58:03,609 --> 00:58:00,740
have that resource but you type in

1471
00:58:05,260 --> 00:58:03,619
underground city and you'll get dozens

1472
00:58:07,210 --> 00:58:05,270
and dozens of results from the early

1473
00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:07,220
1800s a lot of times in conjunction with

1474
00:58:10,990 --> 00:58:08,960
those giant skeletons but they'd go down

1475
00:58:13,390 --> 00:58:11,000
and they'd find these huge chambers all

1476
00:58:15,819 --> 00:58:13,400
across the underside of America it's

1477
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:15,829
interesting that's the word we're using

1478
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:18,890
is huge and the second word we're using

1479
00:58:25,029 --> 00:58:22,730
is deep we're not talking about just

1480
00:58:28,510 --> 00:58:25,039
down below the sewage level okay we're

1481
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:28,520
talking you know 50 60 70 feet deep and

1482
00:58:32,770 --> 00:58:30,770
as that's what they're finding in Egypt

1483
00:58:34,180 --> 00:58:32,780
and that's kind of

1484
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:34,190
that's some of the stuff that they're

1485
00:58:40,030 --> 00:58:37,490
finding here in this country today man

1486
00:58:41,380 --> 00:58:40,040
so time has just flown by know I've

1487
00:58:43,690 --> 00:58:41,390
asked you a lot of questions we've

1488
00:58:46,060 --> 00:58:43,700
covered a lot of ground before we get to

1489
00:58:48,610 --> 00:58:46,070
wrapping up and giving out your links

1490
00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:48,620
and places where people can follow up on

1491
00:58:52,060 --> 00:58:50,270
you I wanted to just give you a minute

1492
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:52,070
is there anything we didn't discuss that

1493
00:58:55,870 --> 00:58:53,570
you'd like to get out to the listeners

1494
00:58:57,730 --> 00:58:55,880
anything of interest that you just want

1495
00:58:58,900 --> 00:58:57,740
to convey I've got a lot of new stuff

1496
00:59:00,970 --> 00:58:58,910
coming out there's always going to be

1497
00:59:04,060 --> 00:59:00,980
some new material I just released two

1498
00:59:05,380 --> 00:59:04,070
videos on ancient coins because I've

1499
00:59:09,070 --> 00:59:05,390
been collecting ancient coins for over

1500
00:59:11,170 --> 00:59:09,080
30 years I don't know a long time and or

1501
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:11,180
whatever but I've got some other videos

1502
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:14,450
on the drawing board and you know some

1503
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:16,130
of my coin and some of my like the

1504
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:17,930
ancient coins they're not just for

1505
00:59:22,690 --> 00:59:20,000
ancient coin collectors and dealers the

1506
00:59:25,450 --> 00:59:22,700
novice can watch them and follow them

1507
00:59:27,580 --> 00:59:25,460
and not feel you're going to learn about

1508
00:59:29,290 --> 00:59:27,590
ancient coins and you'll know everything

1509
00:59:30,610 --> 00:59:29,300
you'll know everything about ancient

1510
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:30,620
coins by watching the ancient coin vault

1511
00:59:35,290 --> 00:59:32,810
one and two and from that I'm probably

1512
00:59:37,180 --> 00:59:35,300
going to have a couple of more and I've

1513
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:37,190
got a lot of videos online they're just

1514
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:40,640
absolutely intrigue phenomena and and a

1515
00:59:44,620 --> 00:59:42,170
lot of just actual things that happen to

1516
00:59:47,290 --> 00:59:44,630
me that I can relate and I can show you

1517
00:59:49,150 --> 00:59:47,300
but a lot of it has to do with what I'm

1518
00:59:52,690 --> 00:59:49,160
come across and all my toes I've got two

1519
00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:52,700
two barns full of totes the screws Ruth

1520
00:59:57,340 --> 00:59:55,070
Reuben okay there's that book I haven't

1521
00:59:59,650 --> 00:59:57,350
seen it in 10 years it's just finding

1522
01:00:01,360 --> 00:59:59,660
the right the right books and putting

1523
01:00:04,660 --> 01:00:01,370
together a video on them sure

1524
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:04,670
so before we do go remind people of your

1525
01:00:08,830 --> 01:00:07,010
website and your YouTube channel the

1526
01:00:11,260 --> 01:00:08,840
YouTube channel is Harry Hubbard and

1527
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,270
there's all kinds of stuff there the

1528
01:00:16,330 --> 01:00:13,520
Facebook is Illinois Kay the Illinois

1529
01:00:18,490 --> 01:00:16,340
cave our website is Illinois caves calm

1530
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:18,500
and our the site that you can buy two of

1531
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:20,930
my books and a few of my articles from

1532
01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:23,450
weigh win or access articles that I did

1533
01:00:29,950 --> 01:00:26,480
years ago that are now free of charge

1534
01:00:33,580 --> 01:00:29,960
that go with my books as Alexander

1535
01:00:35,260 --> 01:00:33,590
Helios dot-com right on well it has been

1536
01:00:36,970 --> 01:00:35,270
great talking to you I know you've got

1537
01:00:38,770 --> 01:00:36,980
plenty more up your sleeve and hopefully

1538
01:00:41,020 --> 01:00:38,780
we do this again sometime but until then

1539
01:00:42,580 --> 01:00:41,030
take care of yourself man hey thank you

1540
01:00:44,890 --> 01:00:42,590
thank you I've enjoyed talking to you

1541
01:00:47,140 --> 01:00:44,900
and I want to just encourage your

1542
01:00:49,060 --> 01:00:47,150
listeners if they would subscribe to

1543
01:00:51,340 --> 01:00:49,070
Herry channel because we're trying to

1544
01:00:52,990 --> 01:00:51,350
get more subscribers that we're trying

1545
01:00:54,790 --> 01:00:53,000
to go over a thousand right and you're

1546
01:00:56,890 --> 01:00:54,800
at 750 right now so I don't think

1547
01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:56,900
there's any problem with the size of

1548
01:01:01,030 --> 01:00:58,850
this audience and getting to a thousand

1549
01:01:02,890 --> 01:01:01,040
that's should be pretty easy thank you

1550
01:01:05,830 --> 01:01:02,900
thank you and there's plenty of other

1551
01:01:07,450 --> 01:01:05,840
stuff on YouTube with other people who

1552
01:01:08,980 --> 01:01:07,460
have embedded stuff that I even don't

1553
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:08,990
show there's there's other stuff and

1554
01:01:13,150 --> 01:01:11,450
interviews and videos that I don't even

1555
01:01:15,070 --> 01:01:13,160
have control over but they're good

1556
01:01:16,900 --> 01:01:15,080
they're good so keep it interesting I'm

1557
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:16,910
sure people will keep tuning in thank

1558
01:01:21,730 --> 01:01:19,490
you thank you hopefully you again Jason

1559
01:01:22,090 --> 01:01:21,740
will do man all right thank you you got

1560
01:01:24,430 --> 01:01:22,100
it

1561
01:01:26,860 --> 01:01:24,440
have a good evening you too right and

1562
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:26,870
boom goes the dynamite my friends man I

1563
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:29,510
have got to say I love that show I love

1564
01:01:34,810 --> 01:01:32,510
love love those strange ancient maps and

1565
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:34,820
I've never met someone who knows so much

1566
01:01:39,550 --> 01:01:37,490
about them and the mapmakers themselves

1567
01:01:41,050 --> 01:01:39,560
the bar goes Islands are fascinating

1568
01:01:43,180 --> 01:01:41,060
most people who have checked out maps

1569
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:43,190
that show a hole at the top of the pole

1570
01:01:48,070 --> 01:01:45,920
will have seen these islands details are

1571
01:01:50,980 --> 01:01:48,080
always scarce but Harry had some decent

1572
01:01:53,950 --> 01:01:50,990
tidbits to relay I'm not sure I don't

1573
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:53,960
think I've ever heard of Friesland and

1574
01:01:58,660 --> 01:01:56,330
that just blew my mind why is there this

1575
01:02:00,610 --> 01:01:58,670
well-defined island with city names and

1576
01:02:02,140 --> 01:02:00,620
a capital and it's not in the history

1577
01:02:04,540 --> 01:02:02,150
books and there's no information in

1578
01:02:06,610 --> 01:02:04,550
modern times I think that's why I like

1579
01:02:08,860 --> 01:02:06,620
the Hollow Earth idea so much this idea

1580
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:08,870
that there is a ton of mystery left out

1581
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:11,450
there a ton more to explore just beneath

1582
01:02:16,090 --> 01:02:14,210
our feet so something like a phantom

1583
01:02:19,210 --> 01:02:16,100
island is just as fascinating for the

1584
01:02:20,650 --> 01:02:19,220
same reason definitely hop on Harry's

1585
01:02:23,650 --> 01:02:20,660
YouTube channel and check out that

1586
01:02:25,450 --> 01:02:23,660
ancient map collection tell me if you've

1587
01:02:28,030 --> 01:02:25,460
ever seen anything like it I'd be pretty

1588
01:02:30,610 --> 01:02:28,040
surprised but I'm a nerd for exactly

1589
01:02:32,530 --> 01:02:30,620
this kind of thing Harry of course is

1590
01:02:34,780 --> 01:02:32,540
into all sorts of areas but I like that

1591
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:34,790
he seeks out old hard copy sources

1592
01:02:39,490 --> 01:02:37,250
pre-world War two sources as he says and

1593
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:39,500
he's right he clearly has gotten a lot

1594
01:02:44,860 --> 01:02:42,050
of great info from them that just isn't

1595
01:02:46,830 --> 01:02:44,870
available anywhere else today largely

1596
01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:46,840
about the Grand Canyon which was a big

1597
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:50,960
part of the Plus show so much untalked

1598
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:53,210
about there plenty of artifacts to

1599
01:02:57,370 --> 01:02:55,610
report all hidden so that's a great

1600
01:02:59,440 --> 01:02:57,380
chunk of information I've been wanting

1601
01:03:01,000 --> 01:02:59,450
to get a guest on to talk about the

1602
01:03:02,950 --> 01:03:01,010
things they found at the Grand

1603
01:03:04,690 --> 01:03:02,960
Canyon region for quite some time but it

1604
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:04,700
just isn't in the repertoire of very

1605
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:06,890
many people anyway I'm glad we could

1606
01:03:10,750 --> 01:03:08,510
finally talk about it but what really

1607
01:03:13,540 --> 01:03:10,760
put Harry Hubbard on the map originally

1608
01:03:15,850 --> 01:03:13,550
was the Illinois cave saga I think this

1609
01:03:17,650 --> 01:03:15,860
is so wild that apparently the lost tomb

1610
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:17,660
of Alexander the Great was found in

1611
01:03:21,970 --> 01:03:19,850
Marion County Illinois after they came

1612
01:03:23,830 --> 01:03:21,980
up the Mississippi in ancient times

1613
01:03:26,260 --> 01:03:23,840
lots of gold artifacts have been found

1614
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:26,270
there aliens reptilians everything in

1615
01:03:30,670 --> 01:03:28,370
between the fact that it's there at all

1616
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:30,680
is pretty amazing and when I looked up

1617
01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:34,010
Harry originally after a plus member had

1618
01:03:37,930 --> 01:03:35,870
suggested I get him on the Illinois Cave

1619
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:37,940
story came up and it totally all came

1620
01:03:42,430 --> 01:03:39,650
rushing back that I had heard about this

1621
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:42,440
years ago and I had thought it was just

1622
01:03:45,940 --> 01:03:44,330
amazing but when I was talking to him

1623
01:03:47,500 --> 01:03:45,950
about coming on he mentioned that he's

1624
01:03:49,630 --> 01:03:47,510
talked about the Illinois caves then

1625
01:03:51,490 --> 01:03:49,640
hundreds of times in hundreds of

1626
01:03:54,310 --> 01:03:51,500
interviews and there's so much more

1627
01:03:55,870 --> 01:03:54,320
worth talking about that he's researched

1628
01:03:59,290 --> 01:03:55,880
over the years so we went in many other

1629
01:04:01,120 --> 01:03:59,300
areas first but we had to hit his bread

1630
01:04:03,220 --> 01:04:01,130
and butter in the second hour besides

1631
01:04:05,350 --> 01:04:03,230
it's good to get updates on old stories

1632
01:04:07,330 --> 01:04:05,360
and I really want to go there I really

1633
01:04:10,090 --> 01:04:07,340
don't care if I get arrested I just

1634
01:04:12,250 --> 01:04:10,100
gotta go see that got me thinking about

1635
01:04:15,730 --> 01:04:12,260
a higher side explorers group I mean

1636
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:15,740
maybe something for the plus forms but

1637
01:04:19,390 --> 01:04:17,810
whether I can go or not there's a lot of

1638
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:19,400
stuff worth exploring here in the States

1639
01:04:23,980 --> 01:04:21,650
and we can have little expeditions to go

1640
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:23,990
check some of it out right maybe post

1641
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:25,490
something in the forum and if three or

1642
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:27,530
four like-minded people are around you

1643
01:04:30,670 --> 01:04:29,210
could all meet up and go do some

1644
01:04:32,890 --> 01:04:30,680
exploring [\h__\h] it I think that'd be

1645
01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:32,900
pretty awesome you know I got some

1646
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:34,910
messages recently from people that were

1647
01:04:38,860 --> 01:04:36,650
afraid I was getting away from the weird

1648
01:04:41,590 --> 01:04:38,870
stuff but worry not you should be

1649
01:04:44,290 --> 01:04:41,600
confident that THC will never change in

1650
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:44,300
any major way I've seen too many shows I

1651
01:04:50,260 --> 01:04:47,110
love go way off the reservation and go

1652
01:04:52,570 --> 01:04:50,270
irrelevant and sure will evolve I guess

1653
01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:52,580
I don't want to do the exact same shows

1654
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:53,900
over and over again but I'm very

1655
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:56,000
conscious of these sorts of things and I

1656
01:05:00,790 --> 01:04:58,490
love the weird ultimately I'd like to

1657
01:05:03,940 --> 01:05:00,800
get the show so dialed in that we have

1658
01:05:05,890 --> 01:05:03,950
like one practical geopolitical global

1659
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:05,900
conspiracy current events show a month

1660
01:05:11,620 --> 01:05:08,960
one expose on a particular group family

1661
01:05:14,350 --> 01:05:11,630
or company that type of thing one about

1662
01:05:14,769 --> 01:05:14,360
magic and things in that realm of even

1663
01:05:17,620 --> 01:05:14,779
pasta

1664
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:17,630
the self-improvement one about cryptids

1665
01:05:22,329 --> 01:05:19,609
or aliens of the Hollow Earth and one

1666
01:05:25,029 --> 01:05:22,339
about science or medicine conspiracies

1667
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:25,039
that would be my dream but I can't even

1668
01:05:29,589 --> 01:05:27,049
get a schedule set so this kind of

1669
01:05:31,959 --> 01:05:29,599
fine-tuning is probably a bit lofty I

1670
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:31,969
recognize I could balance better but

1671
01:05:35,919 --> 01:05:34,130
don't ever think I'm gonna completely

1672
01:05:39,429 --> 01:05:35,929
get away from this kind of thing

1673
01:05:41,679 --> 01:05:39,439
sometimes these really strange niche

1674
01:05:43,899 --> 01:05:41,689
areas they need to advance a little

1675
01:05:45,339 --> 01:05:43,909
before I can really do another show or

1676
01:05:47,799 --> 01:05:45,349
we're gonna be hearing the same

1677
01:05:49,539 --> 01:05:47,809
coast-to-coast bullet-points all the

1678
01:05:51,429 --> 01:05:49,549
time and we got to avoid that nobody

1679
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:51,439
wants that so don't ever think I have

1680
01:05:55,839 --> 01:05:53,359
abandoned high strangeness I just want

1681
01:05:58,719 --> 01:05:55,849
there to be some substance and if I find

1682
01:06:00,880 --> 01:05:58,729
a field to be a bit stagnant then it's

1683
01:06:02,829 --> 01:06:00,890
gonna take some time before I can find a

1684
01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:02,839
researcher with a unique angle or

1685
01:06:07,719 --> 01:06:05,689
something happens but I got the helm of

1686
01:06:10,269 --> 01:06:07,729
this ship and I'm gonna steer it as best

1687
01:06:12,399 --> 01:06:10,279
I can and worried not because I've been

1688
01:06:14,529 --> 01:06:12,409
doing it for quite some time but that

1689
01:06:16,329 --> 01:06:14,539
does it for me do subscribe to Harry

1690
01:06:18,130 --> 01:06:16,339
Hubbard's YouTube channel let him know

1691
01:06:19,509 --> 01:06:18,140
we have passionate listeners so that

1692
01:06:22,149 --> 01:06:19,519
when I ask him to do it again perhaps

1693
01:06:23,649 --> 01:06:22,159
he'll be inclined to say yes plus he

1694
01:06:25,419 --> 01:06:23,659
works hard on this stuff and it kind of

1695
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:25,429
sucks to feel like nobody's tuning in

1696
01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:27,890
I've known that pain believe me let's

1697
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:29,119
get him over a thousand subscribers

1698
01:06:33,549 --> 01:06:31,130
though he's not asking you to buy a book

1699
01:06:35,979 --> 01:06:33,559
or download a rental of his movie for

1700
01:06:37,989 --> 01:06:35,989
$7.99 he just wants you to check out the

1701
01:06:40,089 --> 01:06:37,999
result of decades of work and blood

1702
01:06:42,399 --> 01:06:40,099
sweat and tears so let's make the man's

1703
01:06:44,469 --> 01:06:42,409
day I think we could easily get him to

1704
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:44,479
10,000 subscribers but we'd need a

1705
01:06:49,299 --> 01:06:47,209
decent amount of participation there but

1706
01:06:51,370 --> 01:06:49,309
also let me know if you'd like to go

1707
01:06:53,439 --> 01:06:51,380
deeper down the rabbit hole with Harry

1708
01:06:56,620 --> 01:06:53,449
and I'll get them back on your feedback

1709
01:06:58,029 --> 01:06:56,630
is kind of important right but until

1710
01:07:00,459 --> 01:06:58,039
that day we're gonna call this meeting

1711
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:00,469
of the midnight society closed and it's

1712
01:07:04,299 --> 01:07:02,689
your move Smithsonian white washers and

1713
01:07:11,470 --> 01:07:04,309
crafty concealers of our mysterious

1714
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:14,930
lucid dreams are so vivid cuz you go to

1715
01:07:20,990 --> 01:07:17,490
bed at 7:00 and your brain comes alive

1716
01:07:23,390 --> 01:07:21,000
cuz you're H and 9 to 5 you wake up with

1717
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:23,400
a dread and make sure your cats are fed

1718
01:07:27,950 --> 01:07:25,890
did your brain talk to a ghost who moved

1719
01:07:31,700 --> 01:07:27,960
your coffee and your toast as you

1720
01:07:34,490 --> 01:07:31,710
listened to the higher side chats you

1721
01:07:37,310 --> 01:07:34,500
get to your desk and your boss says it's

1722
01:07:39,770 --> 01:07:37,320
a mess and your soul slowly goes to a

1723
01:07:44,410 --> 01:07:39,780
place where nothing grows when you think

1724
01:07:47,540 --> 01:07:44,420
he's not around you insert a SETI sound

1725
01:07:51,890 --> 01:07:47,550
vom says turn it down and you say it's

1726
01:07:54,740 --> 01:07:51,900
just the higher side chats oh do you

1727
01:07:59,630 --> 01:07:54,750
think you're being invited to Bohemian

1728
01:08:03,290 --> 01:07:59,640
Grove to a Bilderberg Club oh do you

1729
01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:03,300
think you'd be invited by rusta to a

1730
01:08:14,740 --> 01:08:12,100
to the center of the earth to the

1731
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:14,750
Marianas Trench your teeth begin to

1732
01:08:23,079 --> 01:08:18,799
clench from the sulphureus stench the

1733
01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:23,089
mask you give in doesn't fit cuz you're

1734
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:30,020
starting today you'll make plans to get

1735
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:32,610
away there's no one to hold you down and

1736
01:08:38,210 --> 01:08:35,370
the what if start to drown then you wake

1737
01:08:41,090 --> 01:08:38,220
to the glare of a co fluorescent stare

1738
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:41,100
and the light winks at you cuz its life

1739
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:43,440
is almost through but it's holding gone

1740
01:09:05,930 --> 01:08:47,310
to quit time just like you it's time for

1741
01:09:09,809 --> 01:09:08,249
hey guys thanks for listening to the

1742
01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:09,819
first hour of the higher side chats

1743
01:09:14,219 --> 01:09:12,159
podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you

1744
01:09:16,589 --> 01:09:14,229
don't know there is a second hour to all

1745
01:09:18,299 --> 01:09:16,599
the episodes we do around here generally

1746
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:18,309
we're able to get a lot deeper into the

1747
01:09:22,049 --> 01:09:20,049
topics and ideas that a guest is about

1748
01:09:25,169 --> 01:09:22,059
so if you enjoyed what you've heard from

1749
01:09:27,390 --> 01:09:25,179
THC for free consider signing up at the

1750
01:09:29,339 --> 01:09:27,400
higher side chats plus com to get the

1751
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:29,349
second hour of the 5 shows I put

1752
01:09:33,569 --> 01:09:31,690
together each month I never really

1753
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:33,579
wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast

1754
01:09:37,259 --> 01:09:35,289
but I really hate the idea of spending

1755
01:09:39,390 --> 01:09:37,269
airtime promoting some product that's

1756
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:39,400
completely unrelated and telling you the

1757
01:09:43,799 --> 01:09:41,049
best way to support the show is to buy

1758
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:43,809
an audio book or new underwear by mail

1759
01:09:48,029 --> 01:09:45,489
or something crazy like that so instead

1760
01:09:49,649 --> 01:09:48,039
if you like the show double your time

1761
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:49,659
with it for five bucks a month and let's

1762
01:09:53,370 --> 01:09:51,759
cut out all the other [\h__\h] it's half the

1763
01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:53,380
price of a movie ticket and you get at

1764
01:09:57,750 --> 01:09:55,150
least an extra five hours of show a

1765
01:09:59,580 --> 01:09:57,760
month collectively it keeps us stable

1766
01:10:01,169 --> 01:09:59,590
and it frees me from wasting your time

1767
01:10:03,719 --> 01:10:01,179
with anything but the show you came to

1768
01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:03,729
listen to it's really the only way for

1769
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:05,710
an independent one-man show to make it

1770
01:10:09,719 --> 01:10:07,510
and I do what I can so that it's worth

1771
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:09,729
your while since we started this I've

1772
01:10:13,739 --> 01:10:11,710
always tried to use the subscriptions to

1773
01:10:16,290 --> 01:10:13,749
improve the podcast and make signups

1774
01:10:18,209 --> 01:10:16,300
more advantageous it started with just a

1775
01:10:19,890 --> 01:10:18,219
second hour for the main show but now

1776
01:10:21,930 --> 01:10:19,900
we've got a nice forum going where

1777
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:21,940
people can get deeper in conversation

1778
01:10:26,549 --> 01:10:23,650
about the episodes with other listeners

1779
01:10:28,799 --> 01:10:26,559
submit a candidate in the guest request

1780
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:28,809
thread or share their own personal

1781
01:10:32,580 --> 01:10:30,489
projects to get out of the soul-crushing

1782
01:10:35,129 --> 01:10:32,590
nine-to-five cog in the wheel life on

1783
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:35,139
the entrepreneurs thread the forum in

1784
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:36,610
the Plus comments are always the first

1785
01:10:40,770 --> 01:10:38,530
places I try to go for listener

1786
01:10:43,140 --> 01:10:40,780
engagement but it does get harder as the

1787
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:43,150
show gets more popular because of that

1788
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:45,010
there's also a direct messaging feature

1789
01:10:49,290 --> 01:10:46,449
that you can use to reach me through the

1790
01:10:50,910 --> 01:10:49,300
plus site also well beyond the forum if

1791
01:10:53,069 --> 01:10:50,920
you like any of the music I've used for

1792
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:53,079
THC most of it I've hired artists to

1793
01:10:57,180 --> 01:10:54,880
make and I provided all its free

1794
01:10:58,589 --> 01:10:57,190
downloads to Plus members too so if you

1795
01:11:00,779 --> 01:10:58,599
like a particular song you've heard

1796
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:00,789
close the show out recently come get the

1797
01:11:05,129 --> 01:11:03,130
mp3 I should also mention that if you

1798
01:11:07,469 --> 01:11:05,139
don't like the idea of paying $5

1799
01:11:09,660 --> 01:11:07,479
recurring every month I get that you can

1800
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:09,670
buy three months six months or a year

1801
01:11:13,739 --> 01:11:12,010
upfront and just be done with it I have

1802
01:11:16,319 --> 01:11:13,749
plenty of listeners who send checks and

1803
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:16,329
money orders to the PIO box too I try to

1804
01:11:18,750 --> 01:11:17,050
make it as easy

1805
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:18,760
for people as I can and you can read

1806
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:20,890
more about it on the signup page also be

1807
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:23,410
sure to check out the FAQ help page on

1808
01:11:26,660 --> 01:11:25,090
the plus site if you have any questions

1809
01:11:28,710 --> 01:11:26,670
or concerns about how to listen to a

1810
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:28,720
password-protected show on your devices

1811
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:30,610
I've highlighted a lot of great

1812
01:11:34,950 --> 01:11:32,890
solutions and one of those would be the

1813
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:34,960
iPhone app that just recently hit the

1814
01:11:39,630 --> 01:11:37,510
Apple App Store a super kind and

1815
01:11:41,460 --> 01:11:39,640
talented listener made it for us and you

1816
01:11:43,620 --> 01:11:41,470
can use it to stream or download either

1817
01:11:46,590 --> 01:11:43,630
the free or the plus show if you're on

1818
01:11:48,180 --> 01:11:46,600
Android I'd use pocket casts or podcast

1819
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:48,190
addict and subscribe to the feed

1820
01:11:53,460 --> 01:11:50,770
manually that way I also try to throw an

1821
01:11:55,470 --> 01:11:53,470
occasional bonus shows or QA shows and

1822
01:11:57,630 --> 01:11:55,480
I've got a few other weird ideas I might

1823
01:11:59,580 --> 01:11:57,640
get to try out soon but I give you all I

1824
01:12:01,260 --> 01:11:59,590
can for five bucks and I hope you'll at

1825
01:12:02,970 --> 01:12:01,270
least give it a shot if you've listened

1826
01:12:04,740 --> 01:12:02,980
to a few free shows and you find them

1827
01:12:06,510 --> 01:12:04,750
unique or valuable I know there's a lot

1828
01:12:08,670 --> 01:12:06,520
of podcasts out there and I'm just one

1829
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:08,680
of them but if you have any questions

1830
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:10,480
concerns or comments about any of this

1831
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:12,010
please get in touch with us at the

1832
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:14,890
higher side chats team @ gmail.com I

1833
01:12:18,210 --> 01:12:16,810
also wanted to plug the higher side

1834
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:18,220
newsletter I'm going to be putting out

1835
01:12:22,530 --> 01:12:20,050
totally free for anyone who wants to

1836
01:12:24,690 --> 01:12:22,540
sign up at the main internet website for

1837
01:12:26,580 --> 01:12:24,700
the show the higher side chats com

1838
01:12:28,350 --> 01:12:26,590
you can also get on that email list

1839
01:12:30,690 --> 01:12:28,360
through the higher side chats Facebook

1840
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:30,700
page there's a button there as well but

1841
01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:32,170
the reason I'm doing this is because I

1842
01:12:36,750 --> 01:12:34,660
get tons and tons of emails after a show

1843
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:36,760
goes up asking me about how I feel about

1844
01:12:40,230 --> 01:12:38,650
a particular guest or topic and the

1845
01:12:42,150 --> 01:12:40,240
wrap-up isn't always the best place to

1846
01:12:44,190 --> 01:12:42,160
do that especially if I have anything

1847
01:12:46,050 --> 01:12:44,200
negative to say sometimes the dust needs

1848
01:12:48,540 --> 01:12:46,060
to settle sometimes they need to hear

1849
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:48,550
feedback from you guys first there are a

1850
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:50,110
lot of factors but I usually have

1851
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:51,730
something to communicate to you and I

1852
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:53,170
just don't get to do it

1853
01:12:56,670 --> 01:12:55,210
so on the first of the month I plan to

1854
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:56,680
send out a little newsletter with my

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thoughts about the five shows the

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previous month and talk to you about

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anything else that's on my mind or

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that's going on and what's probably most

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enticing is that I'm gonna give you some

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insight into at least one guest I have

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coming up in the month which people have

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been begging for some posted schedule

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for a long time I personally think I'd

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like the surprise but sign up for the

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higher side newsletter it's free it

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comes out on the first of the month and

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I won't waste your time with any other

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emails and that's it I appreciate you

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listening I try to give alternative

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ideas and guests a fair shake on a high

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quality podcast expose some deep level

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can

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Pharisees without the yelling and I hope

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to offer some inspiration that even

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though the system relentlessly suggests

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you should follow their blueprint to

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mediocrity you can do your own thing and

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live a much happier life despite all the